RE: [obix] Issues for 1.1 WD32 - Toby, Craig, and all

They are all specs.

 

The current name matches the starter document.

 

We did not spit out encodings or bindings until later, so the name “spec” would have made no sense

 

 

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Subject: [obix] Issues for 1.1 WD32 - Toby, Craig, and all

 

Toby --

The Jira project is out of date - the most recent WD is WD28, and they all show as unreleased. Please update when you get a chance.

Two notes to you in 3.5 and 3.6 below.

All--

Rather than post Jira items to an antique Working Draft here's what I promised from today's meeting.

UML diagram and proposed note was sent to the list around 90 minutes ago and is in the archive under Contributions. Public link is

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/54201/Obj%20and%20Subclasses%2020140925.png for the post-meeting version.

UML Enterprise Architect File (EAP) available on request to any TC member that would like it. It would be confusing to post it.

In WD32 pdf I note the following:

line 522 the link showing the URI is a live link; remove Word hyperlinks in examples.

Line 869 ditto

Line 2436 No update for what changed in WD32

obix-v1.1-wd32-changes.pdf does NOT show changes. It seems the same as obix-v1.1-wd32.pdf, the clean version.

We should be packaging the current schema/schemas with the spec, I think - Toby? We'll need that for public review, can live without it for now as long as the schema(s) have the WD number.

Again Toby - can we name the specification artifacts obix-v1.1-spec-wd32? Don't know what the starter doc was called.

General: the internal/external links in WD32 are very well done - I've worked with a lot of OASIS and other specs, and Craig has done a particularly good and consistent job.  Thanks!

I cannot create a valid XML artifact based on the schema due to the absence of "obix:Nil" and confusions around "obix:obj", the latter as a shorthand for something of type "Obj". We discussed this in the meeting.

Address the "well-known objects" and the perhaps related "lobby" issues. This is partially related to the item above. In my opinion we want to think carefully about what we add to the standard, and how extensibility is preserved, while maintaining a standard
 base that can in fact be extended by implementors.  Perhaps "Lobby" should be an abstract class (UML)/ abstract type (XML) that MUST be made concrete by implementors?

The shorthand "obix:Nil: for "an object of type Obj that has Obj.null set to 'true'" seems clumsy, but the existence of a Nil object makes sense to me to complete the logical space.  Needs further discussion and thought. In effect, "Nil" is a literal in the
 space of Obj's - so I'll need to look at examples of use to have an opinion.

Thanks!

bill

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