Hi,
On 2007-05-30, at 16:16 , Dee Schur wrote:
> Hi Louis and Dieter,
> I think these are both great ideas but slightly different, which is
> good.
:-)
>
> Louis,
> I think your camp concept is terrific
(not mine; Don came up with the idea, but it is good)
> and can easily be coordinated through
> the Adoption TC with you as a lead.
I'd rather have Dieter lead the camp; Dieter and Rob, say, as the
camp must be technical and I'm not technically competent enough to
pose as lead, let alone lead.
> Since there will be no presentations, it
> seems to me that as long as you secure the space, you will be set.
> OASIS can
> promote the 'ODF Camp' in the same manner we always do (posting to
> event
> page, OASIS News, etc.) So, as soon as you have a written description
> inviting participants, we can move forward with various postings.
Great, let's start inviting :-)
Dieter, Rob (if you are here...):
Let's coordinate on inviting candidates. We can coordinate off this
list but why? I'd like to invite essentially all those implementing
ODF or wanting to. I don't have contacts in all these companies.
But I think we have to finalize the invitations by, say, end of next
week?
>
> Dieter,
> I think your concept will take longer to execute properly, so we
> might think
> about late in 2007 or 2008. During the last Adoption call we tossed
> around
> the idea of a stand alone ODF event (one or two days), that can either
> co-locate with another conference or act as a stand alone that could
> possibly be hosted at a member facility in various locations. Once
> you put
> this type of effort together it is easy to duplicate in different
> locations.
> I would like each member to consider hosting such an event and/or
> suggest an
> event/conference that would an appropriate venue for 'ODF Day(s).'
> I think
> an Asian venue would be interesting, any thoughts? I would like to
> see how
> much interest we have for this before we commit a lot of cycles. I
> think it
> is a great idea, and ODF is gaining tremendous speed but I will
> need the
> support of the Adoption TC.
Dee, I think I resolved Dieter's points, and I think Dieter was
thinking of presentations in the context of OOoCon. Last year and
year before and year before that we had tracks on ODF; this year will
likely be no different. So, we can have ODF presentations throughout
the conference, without OASIS' specific intervention, though your
support would always be helpful.
best,
Louis
>
> Thanks so much!
> Dee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:21 AM
> To: Louis Suarez-Potts
> Cc: Dee Schur; ; John McCreesh;
> Jane Harnad
> Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] RE: need confirmation on ODF Camp
>
> Hi,
>
> I would love to see technical presentations (e.g. reports from the
> Metadata SC, Formula SC, ...) as well as status presentations (e.g.
> ODF
> roadmap, ODF adoption, ...).
> Furthermore we should have workshops on ODF interoperability in ODF
> enabled applications (OOo, KOffice, ...) and ODF processing (server
> and
> client side).
> Taking the ODF Toolkit project into account, I hope that we can
> attract
> additional audience outside the classic OOo public.
>
> Regards,
> Dieter
>
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>
> Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb:
>> Hi
>> On 2007-05-29, at 21:12 , Dee Schur wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Louis,
>>> We did discuss your email on the ODF Adoption call this morning
>>> and I was
>>> hoping that you would have joined the call.
>>> It was mentioned that it may be difficult to keep attendees with
>>> split
>>> session (19 and 21 of September) on ODF. I'm not certain that
>>> this is a
>>> problem.
>>
>> Depends.
>>
>>
>>> In terms of the ODF camp, how many competing tracks will occur
>>> simultaneously? Is this a speaker/presentation format? If so, how
>>> many
>>> speakers? Or is it an interactive learning event with tutorials and
>>> clinics?
>>> Is this a plug-fest? Who will select the presenters, are you on the
>>> programme committee?
>>
>> Camp: it's a workshop. No presentations except impromptu ones.
>> Rather,
>> work on code.
>>
>>
>>> If we do a showcase/demo, I would like to approach the participating
>>> vendors
>>> about sponsorship after I understand the openoffice.org conference
>>> funding
>>> model.
>>
>>
>> Model: We ask for donations. See
>> http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2007/sponsorship.html
>>
>>
>>> But OOoCon may not be in favor of vendors demoing their products?
>>
>> Indeed, we are not. We are in favour of vendors speaking about
>> experience about their experience with their products, esp. if they
>> concern OOo--are derived from it or in some way relate to it. Example
>> could be, KOffice speaking about heterogeneous environment,
>> KOffice/OOo,
>> say.
>>
>>
>>> A
>>> traditional OASIS InterOp would require a scenario that solves a
>>> business
>>> problem and solution, they are non-promotional in nature but members
>>> report
>>> that the InterOps drive business to their company. Of course,
>>> open-source
>>> participation would also be encouraged. I also wanted to pursue the
>>> InterOp
>>> because we are trying to increase membership in the Adoption TC
>>> and the
>>> possibility of participating in this event would encourage these
>>> potential
>>> new members to join the Adoption TC.
>>
>> OOo and ODF are not quite like regular OASIS formats, I think.
>>
>> The point of the camp is actually to improve interoperability
>> among the
>> ODF implementations. But the presentations, given at OOoCon, must
>> really
>> relate to OOo, as well as ODF.
>>
>>
>>> Do we have any idea of number and type of attendees? It is my
>>> understanding
>>> that this event is heavily attended by public sector folks or is it
>>> mostly
>>> developers?
>>
>> Both. In years past, numbers have trended up from 300-350. I
>> think this
>> year it will be more popular.
>>
>>> I have many more questions, maybe we should plan another call
>>> since it
>>> sounds like you are under the gun.
>>
>> Quite. :-)
>>
>> But I'm in Moscow for the next couple of days, then back to London. I
>> can manage one via Skype or equiv., but I want to hear from
>> Dieter, too.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dee
>>
>> best
>> louis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Louis Suarez-Potts [mailto:]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:28 PM
>>> To:
>>> Cc: John McCreesh; Dee Schur; Dieter Loeschky
>>> Subject: need confirmation on ODF Camp
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> A couple of days ago I sent a note to this list, cc'ing Dee Schur
>>> and
>>> several others. [0].
>>>
>>> No response so far. That's unfortunate. We need to decide on the
>>> logistics of the event, and soon.
>>>
>>> Here is the idea:
>>>
>>> Wednesday have a 1/2 or even full day "camp" that would work on
>>> "normalizing" interoperability among ODF implementations.
>>>
>>> Options:
>>>
>>> ** It could run in parallel to the regular scheduled talks, as a
>>> stream.
>>>
>>> Or,
>>>
>>> ** it would be one of the streams
>>>
>>> The latter option would necessary crowd out other papers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> My own preference would be to have a parallel track.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please respond as soon as you can.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
