I was very excited about the Lotus Symphony announcement and
downloaded it the other day and installed it yesterday. I tried to use it today
– my system started misbehaving so I uninstalled. It’s beta and I’m
running Vista so even the slightest thing could cause a problem ;-) I’m
anxious to get started using Symphony as it seems more like a “product”
to me – polished UI, lots of info on a website geared towards an end user
rather than a developer, that kind of thing. I think particularly being able to
show off some of the accessibility stuff would be a great idea. While I’ve
only used OpenOffice, I’m guessing each application based on ODF has its
strengths and weaknesses (and hopefully they’re not all the same).
Playing to the strengths – that is, showing functionality A in tool A,
functionality B in tool B, etc. shows how most users really work. We use the
tool best suited to the task at hand (hopefully). Is there some functionality
that each vendor can say it excels at, and then build the demo around those
strengths? I wish I had more direct experience with each of the different
products to come up with some other suggestions …
Mary
From: Dee Schur
[mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:32 PM
To:
Cc: ; ; 'Carol
Geyer'
Subject: RE: [odf-adoption] XML 2007
Hey Rob,
Well, we’ve done all kinds of things with InterOps. With one
standard, each vendor was a part of a book store supply chain. Another InterOp,
each vendor was a group of financial institutions exchanging secure access to a
record, etc.
Imagine that each InterOp participant is a branch of a large
company (an enterprise), these branches use different document formats to
exchange data; plus most enterprises have historical records (archives). This
may be too ambitious but can we think of a scenario where we can successfully
fetch, exchange, create and store a document? What about an employment record
starting with an application, add resume, interviewer comments, hire contract,
personnel, benefits, etc. Many branches do touch this type of document,
no?
This may be way off and I know Mary will have a better idea but you
must think like the end-user (obviously) with overwhelming document management
issues. Does this help at all?
The sooner we come up with something the better.
Regards,
d
Dee Schur
OASIS Member Support
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From:
[mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:44 PM
To: Dee Schur
Cc: 'Dee Schur';
Subject: RE: [odf-adoption] XML 2007
Hi Dee,
I read over the
OASIS policy document for official InterOp Demo's. What we had in
Barcelona was less formal, and more in lines with what that document describes
when it says:
"OASIS recognizes
that some TCs find value in internally testing specifications through
non-promotional, informal, proof-of-concept activities (plug fests, etc.). The
results of these activities are primarily intended to benefit further
specification development."
I think there
is great value in having future such "non-promotional, informal" type
interop workshops,but I can also see the value of a more formal event.
In Barcelona,
although the conference was formally an OpenOffice.org conference,a good deal
of the material covered would not have been out of place in an ODF-focused
conference. Scanning over the program, I count 15 presentations that
would have worked well in that kind of context. So something we might consider,
given a longer planning cycle, is whether we want to have an ODF conference
next year? I think we could line up enough speakers to have a 2-day 2-track
conference entirely on ODF.
But back to XML
2007... I'm trying to imagine what an interesting InterOp demo would
look like. Any ideas? Certainly creating a document in KOffice or Lotus
Symphony and then opening it in OpenOffice or MS Office would be underwhelming.
Although this is a basic, key operation that will be repeated billions of time,
it doesn't make a compelling demo.
Maybe I'm getting
caught upon the word "interop"? What kinds of things have other such
events dealt with? Is this typically an hour demo? Or are we
looking for a series of demos spanning a half day?
Regards,
-Rob
___________________________
Rob Weir
Software Architect
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Software Group
email:
phone: 1-978-399-7122
blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/
"Dee Schur"
<> wrote on 09/26/2007 11:47:25 AM:
> Any feedback here? Should I reach out to the ODF TC?
> Thanks!
>
> Dee Schur
> OASIS Member Support
> www.oasis-open.org
>
>
> Register now for the Open Standards Forum:
> "Enabling Transformational Government Through Web Services and
SOA"
> 29-30 Oct 2007 * London
> http://events.oasis-open.org/home/forum/2007
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dee Schur [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:29 AM
> To:
> Cc:
> Subject: [odf-adoption] XML 2007
> Importance: High
>
> Hi,
> I spoke with the XML 2007,
> http://2007.xmlconference.org/public/content/home, organizer this morning
> regarding an OASIS ODF InterOp Demonstration <see Policy document
for
> participation: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/interop_demo_policy.php> which
> we discussed on the call this morning.
> She was intrigued but needed a better description (abstract) to take
to
> management to make a determination regarding our participation. I
think this
> is a great opportunity for all participants but it will be different
than
> the ODF Camp. It will be incumbent on the participants to identify and
agree
> on a scenario (the more straight forward the better in my opinion)
that
> would be compelling for the attendees of this conference.
Participation is
> open to all OASIS members and we often gain membership with these
> opportunities. We require membership (of course we have many options)
to
> insure fairness and to preserve a non-commercial 'feel' to these
events. I
> will be responsible for all logistics and will quickly create an
InterOp
> email list to be used by participants.
> First, we need to decide if we move forward very quickly? Then we must
send
> Georgia an abstract as soon as possible as they are in the middle of
fixing
> the programme.
> Please send your feedback, questions or concerns ASAP.
> Best regards,
> Dee
>
>
