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Re: [office-accessibility] Fwd: [office] Recommendation to deprecate the is-subtableattribute
Yes. I read this. So, Pete if this is going to stay in do we need to change the wording on table cell referencing that would make it easier to process a table in jaws? Rich Schwerdtfeger Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review Board blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer "Dave Pawson" <> "Dave Pawson" <> 06/17/2007 01:44 PM To cc Subject [office-accessibility] Fwd: [office] Recommendation to deprecate the is-subtable attribute In case someone doesn't receive the main list. Dave P. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andreas J Guelzow <> Date: 17-Jun-2007 19:14 Subject: Re: [office] Recommendation to deprecate the is-subtable attribute To: On Sat, 2007-16-06 at 19:08 -0400, wrote: > > I received a request from a colleague on the Accessibility > Subcommittee related to nested tables. The request is for us to > deprecate the use of the is-substable attribute in section 8.2.6. > This attribute does not work well with screen readers and the > enhanced support we have in ODF 1.1 and 1.2 is preferred for nested > tables. > > A more detailed analysis of the issue is here: > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200608/msg00048.html The argument made in that message appears convincing if we only talk about text documents. In the case of spreadsheet documents, I disagree with the argument. While I am not aware of a current spreadsheet implementing subtables for spreadsheets, there is a useful use case for them as far as formulas are concerned that return arrays. In that case the addressing "problem" identified in msg00048.html is in fact desirable: it makes semantically much more sense to address the base location of the formula with sub indices for the individual parts, independent from the final screen presentation. I think the real problem is that some word processor developers are using these sub tables for things that semantically are not subtables. This is little reason to weaken the odf format itself. Andreas -- "Liberty consists less in acting according to one's own pleasure, than in not being subject to the will and pleasure of other people. It consists also in our not subjecting the wills of other people to our own." Rousseau Prof. Dr. Andreas J. Guelzow Dept. of Mathematical & Computing Sciences Concordia University College of Alberta -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk
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