Re: [office-accessibility] Agenda: OASIS ODF Accessibility subcommitteecall for December 15, 2008

Rich, I was pointing out that in http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/proposal%3Aauto-play_presentation_file_format
the author of that document claims there are no a11y issues.

Pete Brunet

                    
                     
                     
         

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From:
Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM

To:
Pete Brunet/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, 

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Date:
12/15/2008 05:48 PM

Subject:
Re: [office-accessibility] Agenda: OASIS
ODF Accessibility subcommittee call for December 15, 2008

Hi Pete, 

Good pick-ups on the document. Mike,
here is an update.

[attachment "odf12requirements121508.odt"
deleted by Pete Brunet/Austin/IBM] 

I am confused by this one where 6 4.1
talks about charts and cell backing:

Agenda item 6 - 4.1 - Hiro's comments
for the BPG - item 2 - autoplay issue 

The referred doc says there is no impact
on a11y.  See http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/proposal%3Aauto-play_presentation_file_format

Rich Schwerdtfeger

Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist

blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer

Pete Brunet/Austin/IBM@IBMUS

12/13/2008 02:43 PM

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Re: [office-accessibility] Agenda: OASIS
ODF Accessibility subcommittee call for December 15, 2008

Rich, Some comments: 

Agenda item 4 - the attached requirements doc: 

There are some places where caption-id
didn't get changed to caption-idref 

In section 1.5.0 I didn't understand
the relationship of the link to the text of that section.  Did you
mean this one instead? http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/#link-locators

Agenda item 6 - 4.1 - Hiro's comments for the BPG - item 2 - autoplay issue

The referred doc says there is no impact
on a11y.  See http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/proposal%3Aauto-play_presentation_file_format

Pete Brunet

                    
                     
                     
        

IBM Accessibility Architecture and Development

11501 Burnet Road, MS 9022E004, Austin, TX 78758

Voice: (512) 286-5485, Cell: (512) 689-4155

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From:

Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS

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Date:

12/11/2008 12:45 PM

Subject:

[office-accessibility] Agenda: OASIS
ODF Accessibility subcommittee call for December 15, 2008

Pete Brunet will chair this call. Hopefully Peter will have posted an update
of the ODF Accessibility Guidelines for 1.2 by the meeting. Given the time
of the year this will be the last meeting for 2008. 

Agenda: OASIS ODF Accessibility subcommittee call for December 15, 2008,
Monday at 7am PT / 9am CT / 10am ET / 4pm CET / 12 (midnight Mon-Tues)
Japan time. Please use our usual (and unpublished) dial-in, and our usual
IRC channel: &office-accessibility at irc.oasis-open.org

Agenda:

1. Approval of minutes from 1Dec08 meeting http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200812/msg00002.htmll

2. Radio Button Groups Malte, Pete

Rich's proposal to TC: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200811/msg00017.html

Bottom line is ODF overloads form:name to address radio groups. form labels
can label individual controls and not groups creating problems. The TC
has indicated in their specification that for form:name duplicates form:id
essentially creating two unique names and suggested that form:name can
be removed.

3. Review Intra-document link proposal from Hiro (attached)

4. Review ODF 1.2 requirements document from Rich (attached). This is an
early draft

Rich's post: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200812/msg00015.html

5. Does group agree we should recommend the use of some ARIA concepts (role,
live region) properties in the BPG for document components bound to back-end
data?

There seemed to be group consensus that we should not add anything to the
ODF 1.2 specification at this time. I would like to make this a resolution.

We verified that the live region capability is supported in the ATK/ATSPI
and IA2 specifications. This is a WAI-ARIA concept.

6. Accessibility Guidelines Actions and Issues

4.1 Issues to Discuss

- Malte: Provide input on charts backed by disjoint cells:

How does (or how will) OpenOffice provide access to charts backed by disjoint
cell ranges either in a single or multiple tables? If this case be done
today, what are the examples?

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/email/archives/200808/msg00054.html

http://mediacast.sun.com/share/korn/chart-accessibility-challenge.ogg

http://mediacast.sun.com/share/korn/chart-in-writer.behavior.ogg

- Hiros suggestions for BPG: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200811/msg00006.html

4.2 Editorial Action Items

- Peter to provide an updated Accessibility Guidelines to our document
library so that we can update it.

- Peter to remove Appendix E.3 Tables/Presentations

- Rich Provide a section on PDF conversion related to supporting repeating
table headers in PDF

- Peter Korn and Pete Brunet to specify the text of how table row and column
information are mapped in ATK and IA2

Pete's response: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200811/msg00020.html

- Peter Korn to consider/Update our guidelines to cover Apple API.

ODF 1.2 Accessibility Requirements Draft: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200812/msg00015.html

Latest ODF Specifications: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/documents.php

CALL-IN Information

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(See attached file: odf12requirements121008.odt)(See attached file: IntraDocumentLinkProposal
1211.odt)

Rich Schwerdtfeger

Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist

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