RE: [opencsa-ms] Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 13 November 2009

Regrets for today for me, I'm 
being pulled into a critical situation in progress.

 

Regards, David

 

From: Mike Kaiser 
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Sent: Fri 11/13/2009 7:09 AM
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OpenCSA Member Section
Subject: [opencsa-ms] Proposed - OpenCSA 
Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 13 November 2009

PROPOSED AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering 
Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 13 November 2009 9:00 AM PST 

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0. Agenda bashing and 
Roll 

1. Minutes Approval 

        - 09 
October 2009:     
  
      http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/download.php/34632/Open_CSA_SC_20091009_Draft.txt 

2. Open Action Item Review and 
Discussion 

      
  AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to produce an 

          
      SCA primer as the specs approach standardization (in 
review). 

      
          STATUS: On Hold until we get closer to 
standardization. 
      
                  Keep on hold. 

        
                Agenda for next item. 

        
AI20090814-001 - Mike to get the status of SDO for the next 
              
Steering Committee call. 
  
      
    
            STATUS: Not done. 

        
AI20090911-001- 
      
    - Sanjay to provide an initial skeleton draft for a 
statement 
        
     describing what a non-SCA OASIS solution would need to 
achieve. 
        
  - Bob to insert IPR terms and review 
          - Mike to assist in proposal review 
and post for next meeting's 
  
           discussion/review. 

              
  STATUS: Done. Currently under discussion at SCA-Assembly TC. 
  
        

3. Discussion around new Steering 
Committee Secretary 
  

4. Overall TC Milestones Status 
as discussed by LSC: 
    
    
      
  The following represents the current state of each TC relative 

        to Public 
Reviews         

        * = PR 04/24 - 06/23 
        & = PR 06/08 - 
08/07 
        
   ? = PR 08/08 - 10/07 
         - = Schedule not available at this 
time. (lower priority)   

        SCA-Assembly TC Specifications (V1.1) 

            
    * SCA Assembly Model Specification 

        SCA-Policy TC 
Specifications (V1.1) 
    
            * SCA Policy Framework 

        SCA-BPEL TC 
Specifications (V1.1) 
    
            * SCA WS-BPEL Client and 
Implementation Specification 

        SCA-C/C++ TC Specifications (V1.1) 

            
    * SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification for C 

            
    * SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification for C++ 

        SCA-J TC 
Specifications (V1.1) 
    
            & SCA Java Common Annotations and 
APIs Specification 
    
            & SCA Java Component 
Implementation Specification 
  
              - SCA EJB Session Bean Binding 
Specification 
      
          - SCA Spring Component Implementation 
Specification 
      
           - SCA JEE Integration 
Specification 

    
    SCA-Bindings TC Specifications (V1.1) 
              
  ? SCA Web Services Binding Specification 
              
  ? SCA JMS Binding Specification 
                ? SCA JCA Binding 
Specification 
      
          - SCA HTTP Binding Specification 

        SDO TC 
Specifications (V3.0) 
    
            - Service Data Objects Specification 

          
      - Service Data Objects for Java 

        Where are we on the Test 
Suite progress for each? 
  
              (i.e. Test Cases, Test 
Assertions) For each 
    
              - When is TC final review 
scheduled? 
      
            - When is vote for PR 
scheduled? 
      
            - When is Submission to TC Admin for 
PR scheduled? 
      
            - When is PR targeted? 

    
        
        Public Review dates for 
Test Suites (Assertions/Test Cases) 
            08/18 - 10/17 
SCA-Assembly 
      
      ??/?? - ??/?? SCA-Policy 
            ??/?? - 
??/?? SCA-Bindings 
    
        ??/?? - ??/?? SCA-BPEL 
            ??/?? - 
??/?? SCA-C/C++   
    
        ??/?? - ??/?? SCA-J 
            ??/?? - 
??/?? SDO 

    
    Where do we stand on the Spring Binding spec? 

        Did EJB binding spec get 
update of RDL files from Assembly 
           team?   

        What is 
prognosis for Spring Binding spec, are all the issues 
           now resolved? 

        

        SCA-Assembly 
Test Suite Public review is now complete. Waiting 
           on final 
resolution to remaining spec issues for test 
           suite action. What is next 
milestone target for spec? 
  
          
        Java CAA test suites: Last month, Public 
Review seemed to be 
    
       imminent.  Haven't seen the Public Review issued 
yet. What's 
      
     the hold up? 

  
5. Compliant 
implementation plans         
        Tuscany updates? 

        Do we have an 
update on Fabric3 status?   
  
      
            
6. Response to Microsoft and Siemens SCA-Assembly Public Review 
comments. 
        
Microsoft and Siemens (and other internal SCA members) have 
        raised the question around 
which of the two following paths 
        should be taken for claiming SCA Compliance 
(i.e. A or B). 
      
  
        A) 
SCA Compliant extensions must be compliant with all of the 
          
 following: 
      
          a) SCA Assembly, 
              
  b) SCA Policy, 
    
            c) SCA Binding, and 
              
  d) at least one of the SCA Implementation Types 
              
      (currently Java, BPEL, C or C++ ) 

        B) SCA Compliant 
extensions must be compliant with all of the 
           following: 
              
  a) SCA Assembly, 
    
            b) SCA Policy and 
              
  c) SCA Binding 

  
      
    
    What is the Steering Committee position? 

        The CSA-Assembly TC has 
approved the direction of exploring 
        options to relax the requirements for 
compliancy for implementation 
  
      language extensions.  They are now working on the 
details of 
      
  how to best implement this while still maintaining the desired 

        goals as 
follows: 
        

          - 
must have some type of document that describes the interfaces,and 

          - must 
have a reasonable test suite, and 
          - must have RF IP aspects 
equivalent/similar to the OASIS RF 
             IPR, and   

          - must be 
freely available (downloadable/accessible) to the 
             public 

        
 There is discussion as to whether or not OASIS has any power to 

         say that 
something developed outside of OASIS walls must be offered 
         free in order to be 
compliant with SCA.  (i.e. Test Suite) 

7. Any Other Business? 
       - New call-in number 
beginning in December. 
  

8. Future SC Agenda Topics? 
        
10. Next Meeting 
           - The next regular 
teleconference is scheduled for 
           FRIDAY December 11th, 2009 
9:00am PST, 12:00pm EST, 5:00pm UK 

        (OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are 
scheduled for the second Friday 
                of each 
month.) 

      
  NOTE: The December 11th meeting is the last meeting currently on 

            
  the OpenCSA Steering Committee calendar.  We need to schedule 

            
  meetings for next year. 

11. Adjourn