Minutes for 21 August 2014

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2014.08.21

Minutes

Chair

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM) 

Scribe

Ian Green (IBM) 

Attendees

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM), Ian Green (IBM), John Arwe (IBM),
Martin Pain (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Sam Padgett (IBM), Steve Speicher
(IBM), Nick Crossley (IBM), Jim Conallen (IBM) 

Regrets

Resolutions

Minutes of 24 July approved unanimously 

Next TC call will be on 4 September 2014 

Accept the open-services.net Delegated User Interface
Dailogs spec (http://open-services.net/bin/view/Main/OslcCoreSpecification#Delegated_User_Interface_Dialogs)
as a OSLC Core TC draft specification Actions

Sam to turn the open-services.net Delegated User Interface
Dailogs spec (http://open-services.net/bin/view/Main/OslcCoreSpecification#Delegated_User_Interface_Dialogs)
into an OSLC Core TC draft specification Original
Chat transcript from room: oslc 

2014-08-21 GMT-08:00 

Introduction

[07:06] ian green: Martin Sarabura (PTC) introduces himself

Roll Call

[07:08] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): roll call: Arnaud J Le
Hors (IBM) ian green John Arwe (IBM) Martin Pain (IBM) Martin Sarabura
(PTC) Sam Padgett (IBM) Steve Speicher (IBM) 

Approval of July 24 Minutes

[07:09] ian green: approval of minutes 24th July proposed
by Arnaud, seconded by Steve 

Unanimously approved' 

Next meeting

[07:10] ian green: Next meeting Sept 4th 

Resource Shapes

Arnaud describes background 

[07:11] Steve Speicher (IBM): Some useful background on
Shapes, Workshop -> http://www.w3.org/2012/12/rdf-val/

[07:12] Steve Speicher (IBM): Draft charter -> http://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/charter

[07:13] ian green: Nick Crossley joined the call 

[07:13] Nick Crossley (IBM): Just joined - sorry - was
held up 

[07:15] ian green: Getting agreement on the data-shapes
charter has required a more tech-neutral position. 

[07:15] ian green: w3c is putting this charter in front
of its membership, to get f/b on workgroup formation. 

[07:16] ian green: first workgroup meeting will be week
of 27th october (30/31st) 

[07:17] ian green: Arnaud will be chair of this w3c workgroup

[07:21] ian green: Steve observes that input to mailing
list thus far is vendors pushing their own technology 

[07:22] ian green: We need to identify which specs. remain
to be transitioned to w3c. If the w3c data-shape group produces something
ill-suited for us, we can consider our options to continue using oslc resource
shape. 

=== Namespaces ==== 

[07:24] ian green: Discussion being held with OASIS staff,
understanding impact of potential change & options within OASIS policies

[07:24] ian green: Steve working with Robin to understand
policy and IT implications (eg finances) 

[07:25] ian green: Steve tabling agenda item at OASIS steering
committee meeting Sept 11th. 

[07:26] ian green: Overall cost to keeping existing namespaces
appears to be low. 

[07:27] ian green: OASIS policy & exception mechanism
appears to be unclear so decision to keep OSLC name requires some escalation
within OASIS. 

[07:29] ian green: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/VocabStableURINotes
discusses our options. 

"Improvements to specifications"

[07:31] ian green: We will discuss some of this under resource
preview. 

Status update

Delegated UI

[07:32] ian green: Sam would like to submit previous oslc
spec (a fragment of the oslc core spec) to this TC. 

[07:33] Steve Speicher (IBM): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/email/archives/201408/msg00008.html

[07:33] ian green: Clarification - spec in question is
delegated UI 

[07:34] ian green: We want TC to agree that this is a starting
point for a next rev of this spec. 

[07:34] ian green: MS - what alternatives would there be?

[07:34] ian green: Steve - could be blank sheet, or some
other proposal. 

[07:34] ian green: Steve: no commitment, only a starting
point. 

[07:35] ian green: Jim Conallen joined call (are you on
the call Jim?) 

[07:37] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Proposed: accept the open-services.net
Delegated User Interface Dailogs spec (http://open-services.net/bin/view/Main/OslcCoreSpecification#Delegated_User_Interface_Dialogs)
as a OSLC Core TC draft specification 

[07:37] Steve Speicher (IBM): +1 

[07:37] ian green: i support this 

[07:37] ian green: +1 

[07:37] Sam Padgett (IBM): +1 

[07:37] Martin Pain (IBM): +1 

[07:38] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1 

[07:38] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1 

[07:39] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Resolved: accept the open-services.net
Delegated User Interface Dailogs spec (http://open-services.net/bin/view/Main/OslcCoreSpecification#Delegated_User_Interface_Dialogs)
as a OSLC Core TC draft specification 

[07:39] ian green: no objections; proposal resolved

[07:39] ian green: Sam takes the action to do the work
to get this into the TC 

Resource Preview

[07:39] Steve Speicher (IBM): Resource Preview change summary:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/email/archives/201408/msg00010.html

[07:41] ian green: Sam: Changes to the behaviour of Prefer
header 

[07:46] Steve Speicher (IBM): Here's the prefer example
we are talking about: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/resource-preview.html#prefer

[07:49] ian green: John: may be some undesirable overlap
with ldp filtering mechanism. John suggests an alternative using Link header
which would finesse IETF registration obligations 

[07:49] Sam Padgett (IBM): Prefer: return=representation;
include="http://open-services.net/ns/core#Compact"

[07:56] Martin Pain (IBM): I've got to leave for OSLC Automation
TC call now 

[08:01] Steve Speicher (IBM): To be clear, it is the OSLC
Automation WG 

Configuration Management and Actions

[08:01] Nick Crossley (IBM): Quick status update from Nick:
Currently updating draft Configuration Management spec to use Actions -
no new feedback on that Actions spec yet. I want to complete this update
to the Configuration Management draft before proceeding with the RFC for
a new header (in case other issues / requirements come up during that process).

Adjourned

[08:02] ian green: closing the call 

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Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Standards
- IBM Software Group