Minutes for 16 October 2014

The Minutes for today's call are now available
for review:

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2014.10.16#Minutes

Minutes

Chair

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM) 

Scribe

Martin Pain (IBM) 

Attendees

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM), Didier Simoneau (DS), Harish Krishnaswamy
(Software AG), Martin Pain (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Nick Crossley
(IBM), Samuel Padgett (IBM), Steve Speicher (IBM), Jim Conallen (IBM),
Gauthier Fanmuy (DS), Deric Merino (PTC) 

Regrets

Ian Green (IBM) 

Resolutions

Minutes of 2 October approved unanimously 

Next TC call will be on 30 October 2014, chaired by Steve
Speicher Actions

Steve to send an email on oslc:archived Original
Chat transcript from room: oslc 

2014-10-16 GMT-08:00 

[07:07] Martin Pain (IBM): Nothing on mailing list since
last meeting. Intention for this meeting is to check on progress, and make
sure there are no blocks. 

Roll call

[07:07] Martin Pain (IBM): Roll call: Arnaud J Le Hors
(IBM) Didier Simoneau (DS) Harish (Software AG) Martin Pain (IBM) Martin
Sarabura (PTC) Nick Crossley (IBM) Samuel Padgett (IBM) Steve Speicher
(IBM) 

[07:08] Martin Pain (IBM): jim conallen (IBM) joined 

[07:08] Martin Pain (IBM): Gauthier Fanmuy (DS) joined

Approval of minutes of 2 October 2014

[07:09] Steve Speicher (IBM): looks good to me 

[07:09] Martin Pain (IBM): Any objections? None heard.
Minutes approved. 

Next meeting

[07:09] Martin Pain (IBM): Arnaud unavailable 30th October.

[07:10] Martin Pain (IBM): Suggestion: decide a day or
two before. SS offered to chair 

[07:11] Martin Pain (IBM): Assume we will have the call
with Steve Speicher chairing, unless decided otherwise at a later date

Membership updates

[07:11] Martin Pain (IBM): John Arwe has left the group
having changed role. 

[07:11] Martin Pain (IBM): Dider Simoneau and Gauthier
Fanmuy joined the group for Dassault Systems 

[07:13] Martin Pain (IBM): Gauthier Fanmuy in charge of
portfolio of tools in System Engineering. 

[07:13] Martin Pain (IBM): Already using OSLC 

[07:15] Steve Speicher (IBM): Welcome Didier and Gauthier,
let me know if you need anything 

oslc:archived property

[07:22] Martin Pain (IBM): No recent activity on mailing
list - one of the people expected to comment (Bill) is not present at this
meeting 

[07:22] Martin Pain (IBM): Steve suggested he give more
information, such as how to move something between archived & not archived

[07:23] Martin Pain (IBM): Arnaud: One of the questions
is should we keep adding boolean properties, or have a single "state"
property to which we can add other states. 

[07:23] Martin Pain (IBM): Archive may be fully or partially
orthogonal to other states 

[07:24] Martin Pain (IBM): You are likely to also want
to keep access to the previous state before it was archived. 

[07:25] Martin Pain (IBM): Consensus seems to be that it
is different to other states. Steve Speicher to put it in an email 

[07:27] Martin Pain (IBM): Martin: One of the other questions
was whether they are expected to be included in selection dialogs &
query capabilities 

[07:27] Martin Pain (IBM): We don't currently have guidance
on what happens in the selection dialog, we might want to create some and
included this 

[07:28] Martin Pain (IBM): Suggestion that we leave it
more vague: say that providers MAY exclude them, but leave it at that 

[07:28] Martin Pain (IBM): and wait for more implementation
experience 

[07:29] Martin Pain (IBM): Arnaud: Is "archived"
the right term? 

[07:30] Martin Pain (IBM): Steve did some research as to
terms used on public services, and concluded to suggest "archived"

[07:31] Martin Pain (IBM): Next steps: Steve to send
an email, and catch up on next call 

[07:33] Steve Speicher (IBM): I might suggest to getting
some current context for newcomers is to look at: recent email history,
recent meeting minutes and some of the docs/plans/roadmaps on main wiki
page 

Status updates

[07:37] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: OSLC Actions 2.0

[07:37] Martin Pain (IBM): Final review of most recent
changes to be performed by Martin today, then ready for that to go into
open-services.net's "finalization" state (waiting for implementation
reports) and to be submitted to this TC 

[07:38] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: OSLC Automation 2.1

[07:38] Martin Pain (IBM): Waiting on reviews from people
who were not involved in the changes introduced in 2.1. 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): Which will be followed by discussion
of any changes suggested from those reviews, then gong into finalization
and being re-submitted to the OASIS OSLC Automation TC to be the bases
of the v3 work. 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Resource preview

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): Bringing current working draft
into line with Core v3 conventions 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): & template 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Delegated UI 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): The same state as Resource Previews,
but not so firm in general 

[07:39] Martin Pain (IBM): no updates since last call 

[07:42] Martin Pain (IBM): Unsure on scope - need to decide
on it firmly at some point 

[07:43] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Configuration context
header 

[07:43] Martin Pain (IBM): Looking into alternatives. A
couple of weeks away from writing up RFC. 

[07:44] Martin Pain (IBM): That is, was checking if there
were any existing alternative headers that could be used. Found none. 

[07:44] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Linking guidance

[07:44] Martin Pain (IBM): What do we want to do with this?

[07:47] Martin Pain (IBM): Linking will always be important,
but it's hard to reconcile different requirements. Continue with the sub-committee,
but not worth others looking at it until they've produced something more.

[07:47] jim conallen (ibm): I think we need to keep working
on linking in sub-committee. but for now nothing to report 

[07:48] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Attachments 

[07:47] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/attachments-v3.html

[07:49] Martin Pain (IBM): Attachments: Work in progress

[07:49] Martin Pain (IBM): Update on: Overview & spec
template/structure 

[07:49] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/oslc-core-overview-v3.html

[07:50] Martin Pain (IBM): Work on "ReSpec"
tooling 

[07:50] Martin Pain (IBM): Any other documents not covered?

[07:51] Martin Pain (IBM): List of documents kept on "working
documents" on wiki 

[07:52] Martin Pain (IBM): Any other business? 

Meeting Adjourned

[07:52] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): thanks for scribing Martin

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Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Standards
- IBM Software Group