Minutes for 11 December 2014

Now available for review:

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2014.12.11#Minutes

Minutes

Chair

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM) 

Scribe

Arthur Ryman (IBM) 

Attendees

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM), Arthur Ryman (IBM),, Gauthier
Fanmuy (DS), Ian Green (IBM), Nick Crossley (IBM), Samuel Padgett (IBM),
Steve Speicher (IBM) 

Regrets

Didier Simoneau (DS), Harish Krishnaswamy (Software AG),
Jim Conallen (IBM) 

Resolutions

Minutes of 13 November 2014 approved unanimously 

Next TC call will be on 18 January 2015 Actions

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Chat transcript from room: oslc 

Roll Call

[07:14] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM)
Arthur Ryman (IBM) Gauthier Fanmuy ian green Nick Crossley (IBM) Samuel
Padgett (IBM) Steve Speicher (IBM) 

Approval of Minutes of 13 November 2014

[07:15] Arthur Ryman (IBM): No objections, approved. 

Next Call

[07:16] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Next call Jan. 8, 2015 

Authoring tools

[07:18] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: previous process embedded
shapes and vocabs in HTML, then manually create RDF version 

[07:19] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: proposed process is
to make RDF documents the source and generate HTML using ReSpec

[07:19] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: would like to have more
use to validate the approach 

[07:20] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Sam has used this approach

[07:24] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arthur: will shape documents
be published like vocabs? 

[07:24] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Yes. We will use http:open-services.net
as the hostname for URIs and redirect to OASIS 

[07:25] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Guathier: What is a shape?

[07:26] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arthur: See http://www.w3.org/Submission/shapes/

[07:27] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: See also new W3C workgroup:
https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Main_Page

Discovery

[07:27] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: Steve is working on
a proposal 

[07:28] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: See wiki: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Discovery

[07:29] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: need co-existence with
V2, also align with Linked Data Platform 

[07:31] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: exploring use of HTTP
headers 

[07:32] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: collecting use cases,
e.g. what shapes can I POST to a container? 

[07:32] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: one solution is to add
a property to the container, e.g. oslc:createShape 

[07:34] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: added User Story to
W3C RDF Data Shapes WG, see https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/User_Stories#S31:_LDP:_POST_content_to_Container_of_a_certain_shape

[07:36] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review
the proposal and send comments to the mailing list 

Compatibility with V2

[07:38] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: Steve and Sam created
a draft 

[07:38] Arthur Ryman (IBM): See http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/compat.html#diff-from-2

[07:40] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: used CM as the model

[07:40] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: query syntax may be
superceded by a future LDP filter language 

[07:41] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: RDF/XML may be demoted
to "unspecified", Turtle and JSON-LD are MUST 

[07:42] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: for OSLC we may need
RDF/XML for backward compatibility 

[07:43] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Ian: are there guidelines for
how to evolve to V3? 

[07:43] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Yes, section 5 onwards

[07:46] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review
the proposal and send comments to mailing list 

Core V3 Draft

[07:47] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: have overview of V3

[07:48] Arthur Ryman (IBM): See http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/oslc-core-v3.html

[07:48] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review
the proposal and send comments to mailing list 

[07:49] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: we should also assign
actions to individuals, starting next year 

Attachements

[07:50] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: spec is solidifying, added
vocab terms to core 

[07:51] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: LDP container manages
non-RDF attachments, uses Link Headers 

[07:52] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: see example section in
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/attachments-v3.html

[07:54] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: simplicity is a goal

[07:55] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: pls give feedback on structure
of spec, i.e. numbering of sections for compliance 

[07:55] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: I like it, it is useful
to identify requirements 

[07:56] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: requirements have URIs

Proposal to add oslc:archived

[07:57] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: are we waiting for
feedback from Bill? 

[07:58] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: No, it is added to spec
and will be included in the review of the draft 

[07:58] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: let's discuss at next
meeting 

Round Robin Updates

[08:00] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Nick: No action on my item
due to absence 

[08:00] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Configuration context header

[08:00] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Nick: specs will be firmed
up in coming weeks, will draft RFC for IETF on link headers 

Meeting ends

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Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Standards
- IBM Software Group