Re: [pkcs11] Groups - Proposal for Secure Key Import using an RSA key uploaded

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Robert Relyea <>
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2013-06-12T22:22:26+00:00
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Re: [pkcs11] Groups - Proposal for Secure Key Import using an RSA key uploaded
On 06/12/2013 02:44 PM, Tim Hudson
      wrote:

    

    
      
      On 13/06/2013 7:24 AM, Robert Relyea wrote:
      
        
        Wrapping of private keys are specified generically in Section
        12.6 "Wrapping/Unwrapping Private Keys" (version 3.20, section
        12.11 in PKCS #11 3.11, section 6.5 in PKCS #11 Mechanisms 2.30
        draft 7). They are wrapped in PKCS #8. NSS depends on this
        because it puts the resulting wrapped key directly into a PKCS
        #12 bag.

      
      

      And what will NSS do if it gets a PKCS#8 with a set of attributes
      contained in it which reference an unknown OID arc?

    
    Short answer: pass it to the token to unwrap;).

    

    Longer answer: Softoken parses the attributes and discards them, so
    the rest of the key would import. Of course you would get this if
    you wrap using Mike's mechanism, then try to unwrap using
    CKM_AES_CBC_PAD, since softoken doesn't support Mike's new proposed
    mechanism.

    
      Without defining a way to carry the attributes between tokens the
      wrapping mechanism is not going to achieve what MikeS is looking
      for as I understand it - which is cross-vendor export and import
      of keys retaining their PKCS#11 attributes.

    
    

    Right, but it's a new mechanism so we don't actually have
    compatibility issues, unless we are talking about stuffing the
    result back into a PKCS #12 bag. I don't know if any other software
    is using attributes. It may be if we use PKCS #8 attributes we would
    have something that could be used in PKCS #12 as well (just not with
    the guarrentees that the attributes would be properly set when the
    key is imported.

    

    

     

      This is basically two proposals wrapped into one:

      - wrap using a temporary AES key saving some steps in what can
      already be done

      - carry the PKCS11 attributes across in the wrapped format

      

      Tim.

      

    
    

  

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