Re: [pkcs11] Groups - Slides: PKCS #11 AEAD Functions at 2014-02-28 F2F uploaded

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Re: [pkcs11] Groups - Slides: PKCS #11 AEAD Functions at 2014-02-28 F2F uploaded
Hi Mike,

Thank you again for your comments on the PDF file of my proposal.

On Tuesday, March 25, I revised the proposal to address some of your comments. Here are my responses to your other comments.

1. Re: the new const pointer types CK_CONST_BYTE_PTR and CK_CONST_VOID_PTR

I don't need to introduce the new const pointer types in this proposal. I proposed the use of const pointers at the F2F meeting in Santa Clara, CA last year, so I thought I should start using them.

2. Re: the CK_ULONG ulParameterLen parameter of C_EncryptMessage:

Your suggestion of declaring this parameter as CK_ULONG_PTR pulParameterLen is interesting. I modeled the pParameter and ulParameterLen parameters of C_EncryptMessage after the pParameter and ulParameterLen fields of the CK_MECHANISM structure, so I declare them to have the exact same types.

In the two concrete IV generator mechanisms I specified, the expected length of the IV output is known, so the generated IV length doesn't need to be an output parameter. I believe this is the common case, so using CK_ULONG_PTR pulParameterLen should be fine. Since pParameter is a void * pointer, it can point to a structure containing a length field that C_EncryptMessage can set. So the flexibility is there if the need arises.

3. Re: whether an association object should be explicitly marked as Encrypt, Decrypt, Sign, or Verify:

This issue has been discussed separately on this email thread. I didn't change this aspect of the proposal.

Thanks,

Wan-Teh Chang

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Michael StJohns <> wrote:

  
    
  
  

    
On 2/28/2014 12:52 PM, Wan-Teh Chang
      wrote:

    

     Submitter's message

      I will be using these slides for my talk on PKCS #11 AEAD
      functions at the F2F meeting today. 

      -- Wan-Teh Chang
      
        
          

             Document Name:
              Slides:
                PKCS #11 AEAD Functions at 2014-02-28 F2F

               Description

              Wan-Teh Chang's presentation slides on PKCS #11 AEAD
              functions at the F2F

              meeting on 2014-02-28 

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               Submitter:
              Wan-Teh Chang

              Group: OASIS PKCS 11 TC

              Folder: Documents

              Date submitted: 2014-02-28 09:52:38

              

            
          

        
      
    
    

    I did a review pass on the spec document for this proposal, not the
    slides (couldn't find the email announcing the upload so I could
    reply to it) and the annotated version is attached.   It's getting
    closer to my proposal and I noted some areas where it still needs
    improvement.  I wouldn't go forward with this without adding the
    message based calls for Sign and Verify for example.

    

    With respect to the API, I wouldn't attempt to reuse any current API
    calls to implement either AEAD or message based stuff.  The hard
    decision is to open up the API to change - once you do that its
    simply a matter of crafting the set of calls that you need rather
    than trying to impedence match the new functions to the old API.

    

    With respect to the proposal, I think a single pair of
    C_NewAssociation and C_CloseAssociation API calls will work to cover
    all of encrypt, decrypt, sign and verify rather than
    C_NewEncryptAssociation, C_NewSignAssociation etc....  If you think
    of the C_EncryptMessage and C_SignMessage as macros for a
    C_EncryptInit/C_Encrypt which use data from the association, I can't
    see any reason why you need a new association function per message
    type.

    

    Mike

    

  

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