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"Bnders Qundgren"
Date
2003-05-29T17:26:06+00:00
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Re: [pki-tc] Fw: SV: Article of Le Monde.fr / Hans Nilsson
Jeremy,

Here are some comments to the article.

 

PTDs vs. Smart Cards: The battle has 
begun

PTD = Personal Trusted Device (usually in the 
form of a mobile phone)

The smart card manufacturers have had ample of 
time to establish a (de-facto) standard PKI card.  But they have not.  
Instead they are engaged in never ending standards wars making OS support 
cumbersome and expensive.

In another camp people have been toiling with 
PTDs for years without much success.  One of the stumbling blocks 
has been where to keep private keys etc.  The SIM-card (which only applies 
to GSM) has been thought as an appropriate place but it suffers from a serious 
limitation:  It is "owned" by an operator.  But a user is likely to 
need certificates from multiple independent "operators" (issuers).

In 
addition there is a need to improve the security in the entire mobile computing 
platform.

Apparently a remedy will relatively soon come to the world 
consisting of billions of (for the users) precious mobile phones:
http://www.arm.com/news/TrustZone270503

PTDs 
compared to smart cards, are likely to reduce the complexity of integration with 
Windows, Linux and Mac OSes as the "reader" is replaced by Bluetooth/WI-FI and 
the cryptographic operations are high-level dittos.

Do PTDs have usage 
advantages over smart cards?  Absolutely.  The main "ingredient" 
making PTDs potentially extremely versatile and secure, is the fact that user 
keys are controlled by a trusted device containing an Internet browser, a 
powerful CPU, lots of memory, a keyboard, and supporting a wide range of 
connectivity options.  This should be compared to inserting a smart card 
into an unknown slot running unknown software on a computer that the user may 
not be in charge of.  A PTD platform among many things, opens the door 
to convenient uses of "indirection" like featured in VISA's 3D Secure and in the 
Liberty Alliance authentication framework.  That the very same device can 
be used in three completely different situations also helps:

  
Remote (connected over GSM/GPRS/3G/WLAN) 
  
Slave (connected to a user's desktop 
  computer) 
  
Local (ad-hoc connected to POS terminals 
  etc

I believe the moment has come to start establishing 
PTD platforms using SW-based security that will be easy to migrate to use 
HW-based security in 3-4 years from now.

Anders Rundgren

Consultant, PKI and secure e-business

 

----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Jeremy 
  Hilton 

  
To:  

  
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:59

  
Subject: [pki-tc] Fw: SV: Article of Le 
  Monde.fr / Hans Nilsson

  

  
 

  
FYI

  
 

  
Jeremy

  
 

  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From: Edward Hardam 

  
To:  

  
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 3:10 PM

  
Subject: Re: SV: Article of Le Monde.fr / Hans Nilsson

  

On behalf of the Dutch government PKI taskforce I am right now 
  looking 
into the interoperability (or better mobility) issues related to 
  the use 
of different smartcards on diferent card accepting points (reader 
  + 
drivers + middleware). If this issues can not be resolved, we are not 
  
going to be able to roll out any kind of generic purpose smartcard be it 
  
a PKI card or other, We can not live with a single-type/vendor-for-all 
  
situation.

We know of a (=ONE) vendor of middleware that supports 
  multiple cards on 
multiple platforms.  This may be ok for the nearest 
  future, but we need 
more than that if we want to survive the comming 
  years.  

We are looking into Finread as well as Area K 
  deliverables. But what is 
the real support of these standards? Do they 
  really resolove (some of) 
the issues?

If some of us is also facing 
  this challenge (in a practical way),  maybe 
we should discuss our 
  problems and findings somehow. Maybe a meeting?

If you are dealing with 
  this issue now, especially from a user 
perspective, feel free to contact 
  me personally or via this list.

Edward Hardam

 
  heeft geschreven:

>The article http://www.lemonde.fr/imprimer_article_ref/0,5987,3244--321098,00.html
>should 
  concern us all, as it (among other issues) adresses the growing awareness of 
  compatibility problems for executing PKI-elements such as the support and 
  combinations of:
>- SmartCard vs.
>- Smart Card Reader vs.  
  
>- OS (Windows / MAC / Unix / Linux /etc etc) vs.
>- Browser 
  (Netscape / Explorer / Opera etc & variations between the 
  versions)
>
>A page showing an incomplete but scaring matrix 
  revealing some combination issues is presented by 
  FinEid:
>http://www.fineid.fi/default.asp?path=4%2CTechnical+information%2F4%2CSmart+card+readers&template=
>
>
>Another 
  issue concerning SmartCard solutions and SCCP EAL4+ requirements:
>Will 
  a smartcard solution satisfy the CWA EAL4/EAL4+ requirements if the smartcard 
  reader is of the normal cheap type (i.e without dedicated key pad / display 
  etc.)where parts of the signature information (PIN-code, document display 
  etc.) must be routed over OS'es (WIN2000 / NT etc,)which decline to support 
  higher CC evaluation levels than EAL3 ? (Check any CC Evaluated Product 
  List)
>
>Regards
>Tor Hjalmar Johannessen
>Telenor 
  R&D
>Norway
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>A 
  BabelFish (incomplete of course) translation of the LeMonde article is 
  enclosed below:
>
>Why the electronic signature remains dead 
  letter the WORLD | 22.05.03 | 13h57? UPDATED the 22.05.03 | 13h58 
  
>
>Three years after the law which conferred the same force as 
  with the handwritten signature to him, the electronic paraph and the functions 
  of coding which are associated for him are long in spreading. The complexity 
  of the organization necessary to its installation rejects the industrialists. 
  Deserted spans, cancelled conferences, d廥?uvr廥 exhibitors... The environment 
  of the Show Infosec 2003, specialized in the computer security, which has been 
  just held from the 20 to May 22 at the CNIT in Paris, slices with the 
  effervescence of the last years. Three years after the adoption of the law on 
  the electronic signature, this one is long in entering the m?urs. Admittedly, 
  the industrialists must have patience so that the decrees of application 
  (2001) and the ministerial decrees (2002) specify the technical and legal 
  conditions giving to the electronic signature the same convincing value as 
  with the handwritten signature. Admittedly, "bubble Internet" burst in the 
  interval, tarin!
g!
> the financings. For as much, one is badly 
  explained the lack of enthusiasm with respect to a technology - the 
  infrastructure with public keys (ICP) - which was presented at one time like 
  the average ideal to establish confidence on Internet. It would allow, 
  announced one, to control the identity of the Net surfers, to guarantee the 
  confidentiality and the integrity of the messages forwarding on the network 
  and to keep the proof that the exchange of documents had taken place well. In 
  short, to use the open network to make circulate significant information, to 
  place from the orders, to sign documents, all expensive things in time and 
  silver in the real world. In the middle of the years 1990, most optimistic 
  counted on a market generated by the ICP of 3,5 billion dollars in 2005. 
  However, in 2002, it would not have exceeded 350 million dollars. BRITISH 
  SECRET SERVICE In theory, the ICP are a tool without rival. They rest on the 
  principle of coding known as asymmetrical, invente!
d!
> into 1973 
  within the British secret service, then rediscovered by
> Helmann, which 
  in 1976 state the principle of it: to use a pair of keys, of which one is 
  public and makes it possible all to sign or quantify a document, while the 
  other is secret and makes it possible to its only owner to proceed to the 
  opposite operation. In 1978, academics, Ronald Rivest, Adi Shamir and Leonard 
  Adleman, proposed an algorithm allowing to carry out this prowess using prime 
  numbers. Their system, baptized RSA, is with the c?ur solutions ICP suggested 
  today, which rest on attribution with the users of indentity cards numerical, 
  the certificates, standardized and recognized by the majority of the software 
  of navigation or transport. It was enough to increase the length of the keys 
  to put them at the shelter attacks of computers increasingly more powerful and 
  able, from now on, to work in network on all planet. Technology is thus not in 
  cause.C' is its setting in?uvre which poses problem. The regulation envisages 
  a pyramid of actors. It includes/understands dis!
t!
>ributors of 
  certificates (in France, primarily Certplus and Certinomis) approved by 
  authorities of certifications (generally of the banks) which, themselves, are 
  the subject of procedures of qualification. One needs also validateurs able to 
  hold up to date the directories of certificates and to withdraw from them 
  those which arrived to expiry or which were revoked. The end-user must finally 
  be duly identified, which supposes sometimes a meeting physique."Le more 
  complicated, it is to organize confidence and to maintain it twenty-four hours 
  out of twenty-four ", underlines Richard Pirim, architect system safety and 
  network of the general direction of the taxes, which could judge complexity of 
  the problem at the time of the installation of t幨廧roc嶮ures for the payment 
  of the VAT by the large companies and the declaration in line of income tax, 
  to which 608 000 people proceeded in 2003. It is - with the chart of health - 
  only uses of scale IPC in France. Still the ministry 
  for!
 !
>finances it had to make compulsory the home-bankings of 
  the VAT fo
>lion euros of sales turnover which is forced to buy 
  electronic certificates, The electronic signature however remains 
  confidential. Some start-up try to make it more convivial or attractive. It is 
  the case, for example, of E-picture-Certification.com, which proposes, except 
  ICP, a software making it possible to join an electronic signature with the 
  image of a handwritten signature. The young company Cryptolog ambitionne, for 
  its part, to make the economy of the deployment of key USB or card readers to 
  chip, the usual supports of the certificates to replace them by virtual 
  certificates stored on a distant waiter and protected by algorithms with null 
  knowledge. Others, like Audiosmartcard, sell sound smart cards which avoid the 
  recourse to expensive card readers, since they call upon the microphone of the 
  ordinateurs.Reste to knowing if the market is ripe. The authorities have, on 
  the matter, a major capacity of incentive. The project of indentity card to 
  chip of the ministry f!
o!
>r the interior could be used as free 
  certificate. Minefi considers several projects of t幨廧roc嶮ures calling upon 
  the electronic signature. But it cannot be allowed to propose an application 
  which would force the users in the choice of the material - certain software 
  does not envisage the storage of the certificates, Mac do not manage the 
  encryption algorithms and certain versions of Windows do not accept the Java 
  applications. To find a solution universal thus concerns the challenge. "a 
  complexity to make quiver the developers", notes Richard Pirim. Minefi plans 
  to call upon the large schools to develop an application of signature which 
  could be versed in the public domain. What has supposed new times... Herve 
  Morin an indentity card to chip is with the 彋udeLe ministry for the interior 
  board, for several months, on a new generation of indentity card, equipped of 
  a microchip. The working groups of the Beauvau Place did not rule yet 
  officially on the type and the quantity of!
 !
>personal 
  information which could be stored there. Biometric inform
>, in 
  particular, the fingerprints.  Such a possibility could cause the 
  emergence of new card readers to chip able to authenticate their carrier 
  formally. And justice the Ministers of Interior Department of G8, which met in 
  Paris, Monday May 5, committed themselves besides resorting to biometrics like 
  method of identification of their citizens. The United States already fixed, 
  indeed, at October 2004 the date from which controls resorting to the 
  biometrics of the identity and transport documents will be necessary for the 
  entry on the American territory. 
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