Re: [regrep] UK Government Registry Requirements

From
David RR Webber <>
Date
2004-01-17T22:51:43+00:00
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003f01c3dd4d$d84385f0$6401a8c0@DRRW01
Thread
Re: [regrep] UK Government Registry Requirements
Paul,

 

I'm certain the way forward here is a blend of the 
UPU work, CIQ and 

then using CAM as the processing 
engine.

 

The Royal Mail rep' to the UPU has ensured that the 
UPU has the

right semantics and rules for UK postal 
addresses.  I agree some

of it is surprisingly gnarly.  When they 
changed to the post code

system back twenty+ years ago it was a great step 
forward in

automation - but I was amazed to find out how many 
times the

seamingly obvious system is actually broken by 
local rules.

 

What we are looking at is taking those formal UPU 
rules and

encoding them in CAM, and then using the content 
reference

system to equate to the CIQ dictionary and UPU 
dictionary.

 

Once we have that - we can also look at storing 
the

individual element noun semantics in the registry. 

 

I believe we have the technology means to do this 
now - 

all we need is resource and time to actually put it 
in

place.

 

Thanks, DW

  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Paul Spencer 

  
To: David RR Webber ; Peter Kacandes ; 
  regrep 

  
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:32 
  AM

  
Subject: RE: [regrep] UK Government 
  Registry Requirements

  

  
I 
  know that John Borras is already heavily involved in this, so I don't intend 
  to start unless invited by him. I think the difficulty is mapping the British 
  Standard onto the CIQ format. Even if you can, and I am sure there are ways, 
  there are local semantics to incorporate (such as for the Unique Property 
  Reference Number) that require a means of localizing the semantics. Hence my 
  earlier comment about getting you excited (since I am sure CAM can help 
  here).

  
 

  
Regards

  
 

  
Paul

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber 
    [mailto:]
Sent: 15 January 2004 21:04
To: 
    Paul Spencer; Peter Kacandes; regrep
Subject: Re: [regrep] UK 
    Government Registry Requirements

    
Paul,

    
 

    
Returning to the addressing stuff - the OASIS 
    CIQ work and 

    
related to that the UPU work is extremely fine-grained.

    
 

    
The level of detail of not just the XML 
    elements - but the semantics, 

    
rules and formats are covered.  There are 
    roughly five address formats

    
for each postal service - as you point out - 
    its not just about 

    
delivering bits of mail.  The cultural 
    rules on address formatting are

    
also very important - as is being able to 
    handle addresses of 

    
say - waterpumping stations and power 
    substations for utilities.

    
 

    
So - you will find that the UPU particularly 
    has a great deal of

    
semantics on all this.

    
 

    
The CAM has been upgraded to cover off what the 
    UPU needs,

    
and so the ultimate goal from the enduser 
    experience is to

    
have an address object - that they input 
    context into - 

    
such as locale and use - and have the XML 
    autoconfigure

    
to that.

    
 

    
We have been busy looking at this in 
    significant detail.

    
 

    
Thanks, 
DW.