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RE : [Fwd: [regrep] New ballot "Vote on cc-Review subteam report" (WAS RE:[regrep] Standards approval process)]
Thanks Farrukh, we agree to edit the mapping and to submit a draft ASAP to the TC. 

Only to give an example, please find attached to this mail UBL Invoice Structure, which represent a "complete" ABIE.
The files are : 
- one in EDIFRANCE BS xml format (which isn't 100% compliant to CCTS yet...) 
- the other is the BS schema 
- the last is the ebRIM format (it is only an example, the inner assosiactions are not provided in the file)

The ebRIM format shows why I spoke about a dedicated API for CC. When I retrieve a generic CC in reality I need to retrieve all associated sub-component and that couldn't be done by a simple request provided by the QueryManager
In fact, for example a "getABIE()" method, has to retrieve full definition components (ABIE with its BBIE and ASBIE properties) in an atomic call.

Rgards,
Ivan

 

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Farrukh Najmi [mailto:] 
Envoyé : lundi 17 janvier 2005 22:16
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Objet : Re: [Fwd: [regrep] New ballot "Vote on cc-Review subteam report" (WAS RE:[regrep] Standards approval process)]

Resending after fixing the subject per Joe's earlier suggestion.

Sorry I think it was me who replied to the wrong message at the begining 
of this thread. Please try and use the subject Joe started in response.

Thanks.

BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE wrote:

>I'm sorry but the mapping is not so simple:
>the better solution for ASCC and ASBIE is an ebRIM association or an 
>extrinsic object ? do we need a dedicated registry object for BCC, 
>BBIE, ASCC, ASBIE properties or an association is enough?
>Business Context will be a registry classification or an extrinsic
>object ?
>  
>
I think Ivan touches on an important point above... That the fundemental issue is the mapping between two information models:

a) The CCTS Information Model (source model)

b) The ebXML Registry Information Model (target model)

Both models are defined in UML and a mapping between the two should be the main focus. Such a mapping should be an abstract mapping that is independent of Serialization or Storage formats at least initialy.

This whole debate about which comes first: Serialization format or Storage format is not the core issue to debate IMHO.

Instead we should be debating on the mapping issues between the two models (see Iva's examles above) and using the ebXML Registry Tutorial:

    http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/tmp/regrep-tutorial-draft-04.pdf

as a key input when trying solution to mapping problems.

BTW, is any one able to take Editorship of above document from me as I have become a bottleneck on that document? Ivan, would you be interested given that you and your colleagues have been using this document since its earliest version and have some practical experience with its content?

Thanks.

-- 
Regards,
Farrukh

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