RE: [saml-dev] Authentication on IDP.

From
Giuseppe Sarno <>
Date
2005-10-31T16:26:36+00:00
ID
Thread
RE: [saml-dev] Authentication on IDP.
Title: Message

Sorry 
forgot to mention that the SPB uses a certificate (PKI or similar) for 
authentication.

 

Giuseppe.

  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarno, Giuseppe 
  [MOP:GM15:EXCH] 
Sent: 31 October 2005 16:23
To: 
  
Subject: [saml-dev] Authentication on 
  IDP.

  
Hi, 
I'm trying 
  to understand how the IDP knows what credential to apply in case of 
  authentication challenge in a SSO scenario.

  
Pricipal seen as USER_A on SPA and USER_B on SPB 
  and USER_IDP on IDP 

  
SPA initiated: 
SPA redirect (for example) authrequest to IDP indicating that the 
  AuthContext_A AuthContext should be applied to the user.

  
Question 1:  
in case Context_A = userId/password, what user Id should be used ? 
  
        The one known at the IDP (USER_IDP) (which means we can only use the 
  user identifier at the IDP for that circle of trust) 

  
        or (in 
  case the ID has the knowledge) could actually use the USER_A as known at 
  SPA. 

  
SPB Initiated 

  
Quetion 2: 
in 
  case of Context_B = again where the IDP gets the certificate from ? 
  
    
      
do we have 1 certificate for all the request 
      at the IDP ? IMPORTANT: but then how the IDP (and in the end the SP) 
      distinguish which user is that request from? 
      
        
IMPORTANT: should the request in this case 
        also include a userid/passowrd request ? I guess from what I've seen 
        SAML cannot apply 2 Auth mechanisms at the same time (can it ?). which 
        means SPB would need to re-ask for authentication, but I don't know if 
        this would work. Any idea ? 

      
Does the IDP have different certificates per 
      SP? again the authrequest or MetaData seem not providing this distinction. 
      

    
Sorry again for the many questions I'm straggling 
    going through the specs and get those sort of question answered. 

    
Giuseppe.