RE: [saml-dev] SP --> IDP Auth

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Jahan Moreh <>
Date
2005-11-28T19:44:37+00:00
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RE: [saml-dev] SP --> IDP Auth
If the idea is to get a precise "Yes or No" answer, I agree 
with Conor. But, if the intent is to know if the IdP has previously 
authenticated the user, then I think the SP can use an 
<AuthnQuery>.

 

Thanks,

Jahan

 

  

  
  From: Cahill, Conor P 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 
  11:04 AM
To: prasanta behera; 
  
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SP --> IDP 
  Auth

  

  
 

  
    

    
SP wants to know if the user is authenticated or not (status: Y or N) 
    at the IDP?
How can I do that? 

  
There is *NO* way to do this in SAML (1.0 or 2.0).

  
 

  
The 
  other answer's I've seen all deal with answering the question "Is the IdP 
  willing to establish and/or share an authentication session with the SP?' or 
  from the SP's point of view "Please provide whaterver authentication 
  information you are allowed to provide for this user?"

  
 

  
If 
  everything works and all permissions are granted, the SP finds out that the 
  user is authenticated and that the IdP was willing to share that information 
  with the SP.  

  
 

  
If 
  it doesn't work (for many different reasons) the SP gets nothing.  So the 
  SP can't tell if the user is authenticated or not at the IdP when it gets 
  nothing.

  
 

  
There are many cases where the user will be authetnicated at an IdP 
  where the SP cannot figure that out.

  
 

  

Conor