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Draft Minutes from 2008-10-28 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-10-28
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SCA-Assembly TC
teleconference
28 OCT 2008
Attendees
Present
fred carter
AmberPoint
Group Member
Mark Combellack
Avaya, Inc.
Group Member
Dale Moberg
Axway Software*
Group Member
Jacques Durand
Fujitsu Limited*
Group Member
Tom Rutt
Fujitsu Limited*
Group Member
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Bryan Aupperle
IBM
Group Member
Michael Beisiegel
IBM
Group Member
David Booz
IBM
Group Member
Graham Charters
IBM
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Simon Holdsworth
IBM
Group Member
Dieter Koenig
IBM
Group Member
Simon Moser
IBM
Group Member
Jeff Estefan
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Khanderao Kand
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Rich Levinson
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Sanjay Patil
SAP AG*
Group Member
Plamen Pavlov
SAP AG*
Group Member
Peter Walker
Sun Microsystems
Group Member
Scott Vorthmann
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 21st October
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29736/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-10-21.html
3. Action Items:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
id=2008-10-21-1 status=pending Edwards to produce an updated version of the Issue 16 proposal
DONE
id=2008-10-21-2 status=pending Edwards to refine the proposal for Assembly-51 and to post to the list
DONE
id=2008-10-21-3 status=pending Edwards to kick offdebate on Assembly-48 via the list
DONE
4. TC Administrivia
5. Conformance & Test
Consider the Conformance version of the specification.
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf
6. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00016.html
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00049.html
ASSEMBLY-36 Compatability of component type side files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-36
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00046.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00047.html
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00039.html
ASSEMBLY-48: Defaulting composite reference targets to internal components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-48
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00048.html
ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34
ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46
ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86
ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87
ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80
ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2
7. Issue Status
14 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
8. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Administrivia
[4]
Conformance and Test
[5]
Issues
[6]
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
[7]
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
[8]
ASSEMBLY-36 Compatability of component type side files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-36
[9]
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
[10]
ASSEMBLY-48: Defaulting composite reference targets to internal components http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-48
[11]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Done:
id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-21-1 status=done Edwards to produce an updated version of the Issue 16 proposal
id=2008-10-21-2 status=done Edwards to refine the proposal for Assembly-51 and to post to the list
id=2008-10-21-3 status=done Edwards to kick offdebate on Assembly-48 via the list
Dropped:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=dropped Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Pending:
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Edwards to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Resolutions
2008-10-28-1: Minutes of 2008-10-21 approved w/o
2008-10-28-2: m:Edwards s:Booz resolve Assembly-73 with no action w/o
2008-10-28-3: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-16 with the test proposed in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/bin00012.bin w/o
2008-10-28-4: m:Karmarkar s:Aupperle Resolve Assembly-36 by replacing section 4.1 with the test at [1] above w/o
2008-10-28-5: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-51 with the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00039.html w/o
2008-10-28-6: m:Edwards s:Karmarkar Resolve Assembly-48 by closing with no action w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll - quorate with 17 of 23 voting members
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-10-21 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=dropped Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Edwards to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
Action: id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
Action: id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
Action: id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Action: id=2008-10-21-1 status=done Edwards to produce an updated version of the Issue 16 proposal
Action: id=2008-10-21-2 status=done Edwards to refine the proposal for Assembly-51 and to post to the list
Action: id=2008-10-21-3 status=done Edwards to kick offdebate on Assembly-48 via the list
Administrivia
-none-
Conformance and Test
Edwards:
A Complete spec version was posted with conformance statements included at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf
...please look this over with the intent of having an approval vote at the next meeting
...adoption of this version is in the way of editors making further changes
Issues
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
proposals are contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00016.html
Chapman assumes chair
Edwards discusses the proposals
Motion: m:Edwards s:Booz resolve Assembly-73 with no action
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz resolve Assembly-73 with no action w/o
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00049.html
Edwards refers members to the spec document for the discussion (ref new section 6.8)
Edwards then refers members to section 9.2
Motion: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-16 with the text proposed in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/bin00012.bin
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-16 with the test proposed in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/bin00012.bin w/o
ASSEMBLY-36 Compatability of component type side files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-36
discussion in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00046.html and http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00047.html
Karmarkar leads the discussion about his proposal to replace section 4.1
<Mike Edwards>
Complete adjusted text:
<Mike Edwards>
[1] Component type represents the configurable aspects of an implementation.
A component type consists of services that are offered, references to
other services that can be wired and properties that can be set. The
settable properties and the settable references to services are
configured by a component that uses the implementation.
An implementation type specification (for example, the WS-BPEL Client
and Implementation Specification Version 1.1 [ref]) specifies the
mechanism(s) by which the component type associated with an
implementation of that type is derived.
Since SCA allows a broad range of implementation technologies, it is
expected that some implementation technologies (for example, the Java
Client and Implementation Specification Version 1.1 [ref]) allow
for introspecting the implementation artifact(s) (for example, a Java
class) to derive the component type information. Other implementation
technologies might not allow for introspection of the implementation
artifact(s). In those cases where introspection is not allowed, SCA
encourages the use of a SCA component type side file. A component type
side file is an XML file whose document root element is
sca:componentType.
The implementation type specification defines
whether introspection is allowed, whether a side file is allowed, both are
allowed or some other mechanism specifies the CT.
The component type information derived through introspection is
called the 'introspected component type'. In any case, the implementation
type specification specifies how multiple sources of information
are combined to produce the 'effective component type'. The effective
component type is the component type metadata that is
presented to the using Component for configuration.
The extension of a componentType side file name MUST be
.componentType. The name and location of a componentType side file, if
allowed, is defined by the implementation type specification.
If a component type side file is not allowed for a particular
implementation type, the effective component type and introspected
component type are one and the same for that implementation type.
For the rest of this document, when the term 'component type' is used it refers to the 'effective component type'.
Motion: m:Karmarkar s:Aupperle Resolve Assembly-36 by replacing section 4.1 with the test at [1] above
Resolution: m:Karmarkar s:Aupperle Resolve Assembly-36 by replacing section 4.1 with the test at [1] above w/o
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
Proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00039.html
Edwards reviews the proposal
Motion: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-51 with the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00039.html
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-51 with the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00039.html w/o
ASSEMBLY-48: Defaulting composite reference targets to internal components http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-48
Proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00048.html
Edwards reviews his proposal
Motion: m:Edwards s:Karmarkar Resolve Assembly-48 by closing with no action
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Karmarkar Resolve Assembly-48 by closing with no action w/o
AOB
straggler roll
adjourned after resolving five issues
[End of Minutes]
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