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Draft Minutes of 2008-11-04 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-11-04
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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference
04 NOV 2008
Attendees
Present
fred carter
AmberPoint
Group Member
Mark Combellack
Avaya, Inc.
Group Member
Dale Moberg
Axway Software*
Group Member
Jacques Durand
Fujitsu Limited*
Group Member
Tom Rutt
Fujitsu Limited*
Group Member
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Bryan Aupperle
IBM
Group Member
Michael Beisiegel
IBM
Group Member
David Booz
IBM
Group Member
Graham Charters
IBM
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Simon Holdsworth
IBM
Group Member
Dieter Koenig
IBM
Group Member
Simon Moser
IBM
Group Member
Simon Nash
Individual
Group Member
Jeff Estefan
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Khanderao Kand
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Rich Levinson
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Sanjay Patil
SAP AG*
Group Member
Plamen Pavlov
SAP AG*
Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Scott Vorthmann
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 21st October
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29899/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-10-28.html
3. Action Items:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
4. TC Administrivia
Reminder that next week's call on Nov 11th is cancelled
5. Conformance & Test
Adopt the Conformance version of the specification as the next working draft:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf
6. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-88 Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
ASSEMBLY-89 Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89
Question for Debate concerning Component @name attribute
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00058.html
7. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34
ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46
ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86
ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87
ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80
ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2
7. Issue Status
9 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
8. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Administrivia
[4]
Conformance and Test
[5]
New Issues
[6]
New Issue ASSEMBLY-88 Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
[7]
New Issue ASSEMBLY-89 Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89
[8]
New Issue ASSEMBLY-90 Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90
[9]
New Issue Assembly-91 Details needed for scaConversationViolation
[10]
New Issue Assembly-92: Assembly Specification should not state what marks a Java interface as Local http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00009.html
[11]
New Issue Assembly-93: Assembly Specification should state that Services and References typed by Local interface cannot have
Bindings http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-93
[12]
Issue for debate (no formal issue has been opened) concerning Component @name attribute http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00058.html
[13]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Done:
id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmarker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
Pending:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudo-schemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Resolutions
2008-11-04-1: Minutes of 2008-10-28 approved w/o
2008-11-04-2: m:Freund s:Booz Adopt the text at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf as revision 3 w/o
2008-11-04-3: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Open issue Assembly-89 w/o
2008-11-04-4: New Issue ASSEMBLY-90 Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90 the issue needs to cover services as well as references is opened w/o
2008-11-04-5: m:Aupperle s:Booz Open New issue Assembly-91 http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00008.html w/o
2008-11-04-6: m:Edwards s:Nash Open Assembly-92 w/o
2008-11-04-7: m:Edwards s:Combellack Accept proposal in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00009.html to resolve Assembly-92 w/o
2008-11-04-8: m:Edwards s:Nash Close Assembly-93 to close with no action w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll - quorate with 17 of 22 voting members present
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-10-28 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
Action: id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
Action: id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmarker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudo-schemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
Action: id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Administrivia
Next week's conference call is canceled
Conformance and Test
Link to potential next revision working revision http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf
Motion: m:Freund s:Booz Adopt the text at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf as revision 3
Resolution: m:Freund s:Booz Adopt the text at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf as revision 3 w/o
New Issues
New Issue ASSEMBLY-88 Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
Already opened on 2008-10-21
New Issue ASSEMBLY-89 Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89
Chapman assumes chair
Edwards introduces his new issue
Motion: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Open issue Assembly-89
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Open issue Assembly-89 w/o
New Issue ASSEMBLY-90 Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90
Booz introduces his new issue
This issue would apply to services as well
<anish>
=q
Motion: m:Booz s: Votrhmann Open New Issue Assembly-90
Amendment: m:Karmarkar s: Booz modify text in current motion to include both services and references
Amendment is accepted w/o
Motion: (as amended) New Issue ASSEMBLY-90 Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90 the issue needs to cover services as well as references
Resolution: New Issue ASSEMBLY-90 Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90 the issue needs to cover services as well as references is opened w/o
New Issue Assembly-91 Details needed for scaConversationViolation
Aupperle introduces his new issue
link to email http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00008.html
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Booz Open New issue Assembly-91 http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00008.html w/o
New Issue Assembly-92: Assembly Specification should not state what marks a Java interface as Local http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00009.html
Chapman assumes chair
Edwards introduces his new issue
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Nash Open Assembly-92 w/o
Motion: m:Edwards s:Combellack Accept proposal in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00009.html to resolve Assembly-92
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Combellack Accept proposal in http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200811/msg00009.html to resolve Assembly-92 w/o
New Issue Assembly-93: Assembly Specification should state that Services and References typed by Local interface cannot have
Bindings http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-93
Edwards introduces his new issue
<anish>
simon, like a shared memory queue?
<Simon Nash>
yes, that's an example
<Mike Edwards>
Independent of whether the remotable service is called remotely from outside the process where the service runs or from another
component running in the same process, the data exchange semantics are by-value.
<anish>
i agree with simon, but i think it is unlikely that someone may define a binding.tcpLoopback. They would rather do it in an
app specific way. But i would not want to disallow it. I don't really see an advantage to disallowing.
Motion: m:Edwards s:Aupperly Open New Issue Assembly-93
motion fails with only 13 Ayes of 22 voting members and fails to achieve 2/3 majority
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Nash Close Assembly-93 to close with no action w/o
<Simon Nash>
if local services can't have bindings, they are looking less and less like SCA services
Issue for debate (no formal issue has been opened) concerning Component @name attribute http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00058.html
Edwards leads the discussion
AOB
<Simon Nash>
yes, we treat include as a textual cust and paste
straggler roll
<Mike Edwards>
thanks - next meeting in 2 weeks
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