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Draft minutes of 2010-12-21 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-12-21
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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
21 DEC 2010
Attendees
Present
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Peter Niblett
IBM
Group Member
Jeff Estefan
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Andreas Egloff
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Rich Levinson
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Ashok Malhotra
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Gilbert Pilz
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Plamen Pavlov
SAP AG*
Group Member
Eric Johnson
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:1. Intro
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/40630/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202010-12-14.html
3. Action Items
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2010-12-07-2 status=doneJohnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state
of this issue
id=2010-12-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution
of Assembly-239
id=2010-12-14-1 status=done Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline
4. TC Administrivia
None
5. Open Issues (1.1)
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html
Latest news:
Siemens have responded that they have not used the 2 documents to write their own implementation type document so far.
Microsoft responded that they are "fairly certain that the 'SCA Implementation Type Documentation Requirements' document is
an adequate and sufficient
guide for the future language/runtime developers when they attempt to author new SCA Implementation Type specs for their respective
language/runtime.
Based on their experience using this document, they are actually quite pleased with the quality and the depth of it, and commend
the Assembly TC for developing it."
6. New Issues (1.2)
None
7. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-251: [1.2] There is a need to restrict the Cardinality of connections to Channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-251
Latest Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00024.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00034.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00036.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00037.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00038.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00039.html
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc
Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00019.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00017.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00016.html
ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00030.html
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00033.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00035.html
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
No Proposal
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
8. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Administrivia
[4]
Open Issues on v1.1
[5]
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
[6]
Issues against v1.2
[7]
[8]
ASSEMBLY-251: [1.2] There is a need to restrict the Cardinality of connections to Channels http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-251
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Done:
id=2010-12-07-3 status=done Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-239
id=2010-12-14-1 status=done Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Resolutions
2010-12-21-1: Minutes of 2010-12-14 approved w/o
2010-12-21-2: m:Martin s:Estefanto amend by adding and replace the text at 3. with The implementation MUST support at least one implementation
type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type that complies with the following rules:
w/o
2010-12-21-3: Resolve Assembly-252 with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html with the correction of typos in section 3a and the removal of extra periods, and replace the text at 3. with "The implementation
MUST support at least one implementation type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type
that complies with the following rules:" w/o
2010-12-21-4: m:Karmarkar s:Malhotra Close Assembly-251 with no action w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll - 13 of 18 voting members present
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2010-12-14 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2010-12-07-3 status=done Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution
of Assembly-239
Action: id=2010-12-14-1 status=done Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline
Administrivia
Reminder - no meeting next week
Open Issues on v1.1
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
Siemens reports that the documents look good however they have not used the documents in anger
Microsoft said that they approved in a carefully worded statement
Motion: m:Estefan Resolve Assembly-252 with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html with the correction of typos in section 3a and the removal of extra periods.
Motion: m:Estefan s:Freund Resolve Assembly-252 with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html with the correction of typos in section 3a and the removal of extra periods.
<anish>
this replaces 2 MUSTs with one
<Ashok (Oracle)>
Prefer the second formulation
<MartinC>
The implementation MUST support at least one implementation type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one
implementation type that complies with the following rules:
Motion: to amend by adding and replace the text at 3. with The implementation MUST support at least one implementation type standardized
by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type that complies with the following rules:
Resolution: m:Martin s:Estefanto amend by adding and replace the text at 3. with The implementation MUST support at least one implementation
type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type that complies with the following rules:
w/o
Motion: as amended: Resolve Assembly-252 with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html with the correction of typos in section 3a and the removal of extra periods, and replace the text at 3. with The implementation
MUST support at least one implementation type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type
that complies with the following rules:
Resolution: Resolve Assembly-252 with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201011/msg00042.html with the correction of typos in section 3a and the removal of extra periods, and replace the text at 3. with "The implementation
MUST support at least one implementation type standardized by the OpenCSA Member Section or at least one implementation type
that complies with the following rules:" w/o
Issues against v1.2
ASSEMBLY-251: [1.2] There is a need to restrict the Cardinality of connections to Channels http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-251
Johnson kicks off the discussion
<anish>
what if a producer produces an event in the forest and a consumer is around, but sticks his finger in his ears and says 'lala-lala-can't-hear-you'
-- did the producer actually produce that event?
<anish>
are we heading towards CNA on this one? If so, there are only 5 mins left for a motion
Resolution: m:Karmarkar s:Malhotra Close Assembly-251 with no action w/o
Time gentlemen
adjourned
[End of Minutes]
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