Re: [sca-assembly] Groups - sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc (sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc) uploaded

A related question on the references.

    

    For the Bindings TC, we've had normative references point to a
    specific dated version of a specification.  We don't appear to have
    done that for some of the references from the assembly spec:

    

    For example: WSI-BP - references
    http://www.ws-i.org/deliverables/workinggroup.aspx?wg=basicprofile
    instead of http://ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicProfile-1.2-2010-11-09.html

    

    Perhaps that's a bad example, because it appears the reference is
    now spurious (no text matches to "WSI-BP"), although I do see one
    reference in section 6.1 (line 2532).

    

    For all of the OASIS hosted standards, I see that wsbinding
    references assembly with
    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd05.pdf,
    whereas the assembly spec only includes a "version free" URL
    reference.  I'm thinking we might have resolved to do this as a way
    to get out of the hopeless entanglement of versions of the SCA
    specs, but maybe I'm mistaken?

    

    For the W3C specs, it appears that all of the normative references
    are to the "latest" copies, rather than the specific revisions
    (WSDL11, XML-INFOSET, WSDL11_Identifiers).

    

    Maybe my PDF searching is failing me, but the following aren't used:

    
      
JAX-WS

      
WSI-BP (not used, but should be, but then could be
        non-normative)

      

      
WSI-BPS

      
WS-BPEL (not used, but should be, and non-normative at that)

      
SCA-C-Client

      
ZIP-FORMAT

      
XML-INFOSET (not used, only reference to infoset appears in
        the introduction, but perhaps should still reference)

      

    
    

    These probably don't need to be normative:

    
      
SCA BPEL

      
SDO

      
SCA-CPP-Client

    
    General question - shouldn't these references be listed in
    alphabetical order?

    

    Before I raise an issue on this, I thought I'd send this email to
    see if I'm missing something, but it seems to break into several
    points:

    
      
References not listed alphabetically

      
References identified, but then not used, even when they
        should be (WS-BPEL, XML-INFOSET)

      
References identified, but doesn't appear that they're needed

      
Normative references identify links to versions that can
        change over time

    
    At least on the last point, can anyone confirm whether they see this
    as a problem?  Anyone see the other bullet points as a problem?

    

    -Eric.

    

    On 1/5/11 8:15 AM, Bryan Aupperle wrote:
    Any reason not to
        update the other SCA
        spec references to the latest drafts:
      

      POJO - CSD 3 (Nov. 2010)
      

      CAA - CSD 5 (Nov. 2010)
      

      Policy - CD 4 (Sep. 2010)
      

      JMS Binding - CSD 5 (Nov. 2010)
      

      C++ C&I - CD 6 (Oct. 2010)
      

      C C&I - CD 6 (Oct. 2010)
      

      

      Admittedly this could be done at
        CS
        time via Designated Cross References, but why wait?
      

      

        Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.

        STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect

        WW Center of Excellence for Enterprise Systems & Banking
        Center of
        Excellence Application Integration Architect

        

        Research Triangle Park,  NC 

        +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)

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