Draft minutes from 2011-07-12 are attached (lightly revised)

Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-07-12

   
   
      
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         - DRAFT -
         OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
         12 JUL 2011
         Attendees
         Present
         
            

               Robert Freund
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Group Member
            

            

               Eric Wells
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Group Member
            

            

               Bryan Aupperle
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               David Booz
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Simon Holdsworth
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Diane Jordan
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Mike Kaiser
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Peter Niblett
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Jim Marino
               Individual
               Group Member
            

            

               Jeff Estefan
               Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
               Group Member
            

            

               Martin Chapman
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Anish Karmarkar
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Rich Levinson
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Ashok Malhotra
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Jeff Mischkinsky
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Gilbert Pilz
               Oracle
               Group Member
            

            

               Sanjay Patil
               SAP AG*
               Group Member
            

            

               Plamen Pavlov
               SAP AG*
               Group Member
            

            

               Eric Johnson
               TIBCO Software Inc.
               Group Member
            

            

               Danny van der Rijn
               TIBCO Software Inc.
               Group Member
            

         
         Chairs
         
            

               Martin Chapman
               
               
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               
               
            

         
         Scribe
         
            

               Bob Freund
               
               
            

         
         Agenda:1. Intro  

Roll call  
Scribe confirmation  
Agenda bashing  

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting  

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42773/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-06-28.html

3. Action Items  

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
         
id=2011-01-04-2 status=done Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of
         Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra  
- completed by Anish (see below)

4. TC Administrivia  

5. Exit Criteria

Further discussion based on email from Jeff Mischkinsky:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00053.html 

Follow-on discussion on the list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00055.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201107/msg00004.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201107/msg00007.html

6. NEW Issue against V1.1: Request from the SCA Policy TC

ASSEMBLY-264: Can we include Policy Tests in Assembly Test Suite adaptation document?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-264 

7. 1.2 Specification Open Issue

ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246 

Proposal contained in:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42767/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06.zip

8. Proposal for SCA 1.2 CSD01  

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201107/msg00001.html 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42767/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06.zip

9. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)  

ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253  

Latest discussion:  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00056.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00055.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00054.html  

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL
         1.1 mapping  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235  

Latest discussion:  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00079.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00078.html  

ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227  

Proposal  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc  

Latest discussions:  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00023.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00022.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00021.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00020.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00019.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00017.html  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00016.html  

ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233  

No Proposal  

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243  

No proposal  

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244  

Outline proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event
         Types  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245  

Proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
         
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246  

Proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established
         by definitions.xml  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257  

Skeleton proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes? 
         
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247  

No proposal  

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event
         processing  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248  

No proposal  

10. AOB
      

      
      

         Contents
         
            Topics 
            
            [1] 
               Opening
            
            [2] 
               Action Items
            
            [3] 
               Exit Criteria
            
            [4] 
               New Issue against v1.1 ASSEMBLY-264: Can we include Policy Tests in Assembly Test
               Suite adaptation document?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-264
            [5] 
               Spec v1.2 Open issues
            
            [6] 
               ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
               http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246
            [7] 
               AOB
            
            Table of Resolutions
            Table of Action Items
         
      

      
      

         Action Items
         
            Done:
            id=2011-01-04-2 status=done Karmarkar to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines
               contained in wsra
            
            Pending:
            id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
            
            New:
            id=2011-07-12-1 status=pending Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
            
            id=2011-07-12-2 status=pending Booz to produce proposal for the resolution of Assembly-264
            
         
      

      
      

         Resolutions
         
            
2011-07-12-1: Minutes of 2011-06-28 approved w/o
            

            
2011-07-12-2: m:Booz s:Malhotra Open Assembly-264 w/o
            

         
      

      
      

         Minutes
         

            
 Scribe: Bob Freund

         

         

            Opening
         

         

            

            
Roll - 19 of 19 voting members present

         

         

            

            
Agenda - agreed

         

         
Resolution: Minutes of 2011-06-28 approved w/o
         

         

            Action Items
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
            
         

         
 Action: id=2011-01-04-2 status=done Karmarkar to write a new proposal for the resolution of
            Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra
         

         

            Exit Criteria
         

         

            
Mischkinsky:

            
Points out that the means of demonstration have not been specified and thus the exit
               criteria are not complete
            

         

         

            

            
Kaiser: Specifying this level of detail will add nothing

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
exit criteria from the charter:

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
"The TC shall define concrete exit criteria that include at least two independent
               offerings that implement and are compliant with the all normative portions of specifications
               and demonstrate interoperability and portability as appropriate. Note that these are
               minimums and that the TC is free to set more stringent criteria. "
            

         

         

            
 <Mike> 

            
Exit criteria voted on June 21:

         

         

            
 <Mike> 

            
"http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-assembly-TC "
            

         

         

            
 <Mike> 

            
The Concrete Exit Criteria for the SCA Assembly V1.1 specification are that there
               shall be at least 2 independent SCA runtimes each of which are compliant with all
               normative portions of the specification as described in Section 12.2 of the SCA Assembly
               V1.1 specification w/o
            

         

         

            

            
Johnson: The charter wording includes the word "appropriate" and I feel that it will
               be very hard to judge what is appropriate and it may be a very wide ranging and difficult
               task given the scope of the specs
            

         

         
 Action: Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
         

         

            New Issue against v1.1 ASSEMBLY-264: Can we include Policy Tests in Assembly Test
               Suite adaptation document?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-264
         

         

            

            
Booz introduces his new issue

         

         

            
Booz:

            
It is proposed that the adaptation document be revised to permit expanding it to permit
               the adaption of the policy spec
            

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
policy is really a "section" of assembly spec packaged differently

         

         
Resolution: m:Booz s:Malhotra Open Assembly-264 w/o
         

         
 Action: Booz to produce proposal for the resolution of Assembly-264
         

         

            Spec v1.2 Open issues
         

         

            ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
               http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246
         

         

            

            
Karmarkar introduces his proposal

         

         

            

            
proposal at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42767/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd06.zip

         

         

            

            
time...

         

         

            AOB
         

         

            

            
straggler roll

         

         

            

            
adjourned

         

      

      

         
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