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Michael Beisiegel: 1. Opening

Introductions

Roll call

Scribe assignment

Top 10 on the scribe list (full list below):

Dale Moberg Axway Software

Reza Shafii BEA Systems, Inc.

William Barnhill Booz Allen Hamilton

Jeff Anderson Deloitte Consulting LLP

Jacques Durand Fujitsu Limited

Graham Barber IBM

Michael Beisiegel IBM

Mike Edwards IBM

Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Binding TC meeting of 18th October

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/25854/minutes2007-10-18.doc

3. Errata for the JMS Binding Spec

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200710/msg00095.html

4. Open Issue Discussion

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-5

JMS bindingType and atLeastOne intent overlaps with setting JMSDeliveryMode

Latest email in thread:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00060.html

5. AOB 

Sanjay: Agenda:

1. Opening 

Introductions 

Roll call 

Scribe assignment 

Top 10 on the scribe list (full list below): 

Dale Moberg Axway Software 

Reza Shafii BEA Systems, Inc. 

William Barnhill Booz Allen Hamilton 

Jeff Anderson Deloitte Consulting LLP 

Jacques Durand Fujitsu Limited 

Graham Barber IBM 

Michael Beisiegel IBM 

Mike Edwards IBM 

Agenda bashing 

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Binding TC meeting of 18th October 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/25854/minutes2007-10-18.doc

3. Errata for the JMS Binding Spec 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200710/msg00095.html

4. Open Issue Discussion 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-5

JMS bindingType and atLeastOne intent overlaps with setting JMSDeliveryMode

 Latest email in thread:

 http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00060.html

5. AOB 

Sanjay: Perhaps people have dialed into the other bridge?

anonymous morphed into Piotr Przybylski 

Michael Beisiegel: Scribe: Michael Beisiegel

Michael Beisiegel: Topic 2: 

Michael Beisiegel: Khandereao: moves to  accept the minutes

Michael Beisiegel: Eric Johnson: seconds 

Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously

Michael Beisiegel: Back to Agenda bashing

Michael Beisiegel: no objectsions 

Michael Beisiegel: Topic 3: 

Michael Beisiegel: Mik R: suggestion, to give editors the direction
to add errata to spec 

Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: motion to adopt the recommendationn to
this proposals, and that the editors put it into the current working draft

Michael Beisiegel: Bryan Auppele: seconds

Michael Beisiegel: dicussion 

Michael Beisiegel: Eric Johnson: whether we should open this as an
issue 

Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously

Michael Beisiegel: Topic 4: 

Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-5 

Michael Beisiegel: Peter P: prefers Michael R's proposal

Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: you have to fish around in binding def on
whether something conflicst with intents 

Michael Beisiegel: Action: Peter P to create proposal description according
to Mike R's proposal 

Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-3 

Michael Beisiegel: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-3

Michael Beisiegel: Martin C suggest to also not caps it in titles

Michael Beisiegel: ... only when 1st word in sentence or heading

Michael Beisiegel: Mike R suggest to proposal in issue text

Michael Beisiegel: Martin C suggest to say document instead of section

Michael Rowley: Change "PortType" to "portType"
except where being used as part of a section heading that naturally capitalizes
words. References to "PortType" found throughout the document.

Michael Beisiegel: Eric: moves 

Michael Beisiegel: Martin: seconds 

Michael Beisiegel: resolution accepted unanimously

Michael Rowley: http://www.osoa.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&pid=10022

Michael Beisiegel: BINDINGS-9 

Michael Beisiegel: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-9

Michael Beisiegel: Eric: text is not precise enough

Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: things it is sufficient for the editors
to craft the text 

Michael Beisiegel: no editors on call to agree with this or not

Michael Beisiegel: Mike R: editors can always come back asking for
more instructions 

Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: moves to adopt the proposal, and let the
editors do the right thing 

Michael Beisiegel: Khanderao: seconds 

Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: how did we find out that they did the right
thing 

Michael Beisiegel: Martin: the new draft would be reviewed

Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: is there a state after applied

Michael Beisiegel: Simon N: is there a state after applied

Michael Beisiegel: Martin C: its issue close

Michael Beisiegel: resolution: accepted unanimously

Michael Beisiegel:   

Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/email/archives/200710/msg00063.html

Michael Beisiegel: next topics suggestion, ns or ordered intents

Michael Beisiegel: that was Mike R's suggestion

Michael Beisiegel: Eric prefers discussion on ns

Michael Beisiegel: cont with ns discussion, one ns, or one per binding

Michael Beisiegel: Martin suggest the java ones should go where the
java c&i one goes re ns 

Martin C: i suggest one single namespace for all java specifc xml (from
bondings and j tc) excpet for implementation types

Martin C: s/bondin/bindin/ 

Michael Beisiegel: thx 

Michael Beisiegel: Sanjai feels destionation, connection factory ...
dont fit in the common ns 

Martin C: agree with sanjay and those defs might be shared between
jms and jca 

Michael Beisiegel: Action: Martin to formulate issue to bindings group

Michael Beisiegel: meeting adjourned 

SCA Bindings minutes 2007-10-25.doc