Re: [sca-bindings] Issue 25: proposal

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Eavid Cooz
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Re: [sca-bindings] Issue 25: proposal
Even for full support of SOAP/HTTP, the ability to use a specific WSDL binding enables several flavors (rpc/lit etc) that there is no other way to control.  I tend to think we should require a conforming impl to support @wsdlElement so that users can at least be assured of the broadest possible SOAP/HTTP capability.

Dave Booz

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Mike Edwards ---02/11/2009 05:38:23 AM---Anish, What's the motivation for not requiring support for the @wsdlElement

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Re: [sca-bindings] Issue 25: proposal

Anish, 

What's the motivation for not requiring support for the @wsdlElement attribute? 

Thinking about this, I tend to favour requiring support for that attribute, but being 

flexible about allowing the binding implementation to potentially refuse to accept 

WSDLs with specific aspects (although requiring SOAP 1.1 & 1.2 support is OK 

with me). 

Yours,  Mike.

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Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.

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From: Anish Karmarkar <> 

To: OASIS Bindings <> 

Date: 11/02/2009 07:19 

Subject: [sca-bindings] Issue 25: proposal

I went through our ML archives for discussion on 25 (if you are 

interested it happened in 5/8, 6/8 and 7/8. We also had a discussion on 

this during one of our f2f (but I did not get a chance to look at the 

minutes for that f2f). The discussions are about a lot of things 

including whether the binding should be renamed to binding.soap, have 

multiple bindings (for those who attended the f2f, may remember the 

matrix) etc.

In the spec what we have is:

1) binding.ws that is wsdl 1.1 based, but extensible

2) soap 1.1/http defaults for <binding.ws/>

Given that the raison d'皻re for binding.ws is soap using WSDL 1.1 as 

the description language, I would like to suggest the following 

direction for the resolution:

1) An implementation that claims conformance to this spec MUST support 

the bare <binding.ws/> element (i.e. support soap 1.1/http)

{corollary: Any implementation that claims conformance to this spec MUST 

include "soap.1_1" intent in its list of mayProvides}

2) An implementation that claims conformance to this spec SHOULD support 

 the use of @wsdlElement within <binding.ws> element.

3) An implementation that claims conformance to this specification and 

supports the use of @wsdlElement within <binding.ws> element MUST 

support the WSDL 1.1 binding for SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2.

With the two above, I'm trying to balance few things:

needs of portability or providing more teeth to conformance, the 

possibility that someone may want to support soap 1.1/http but doesn't 

want to support WSDL 1.1, and the need to avoid creation of profile(s) 

that would make <binding.ws> more meaning.

Comments?

-Anish

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