Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Requestfor Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1

Robin,

I've created a diff (using Word compare/merge
documents) between cd04 and csdpr03:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40885/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03-cd04-diff.doc

Regards, Simon

Simon Holdsworth

STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

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From:      
 Robin Cover <>

To:      
 Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB

Cc:      
 Robin Cover <>,


Date:      
 26/01/2011 14:28

Subject:    
   Re: Fw: [sca-bindings]
15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component
Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1

Many thanks, Simon. I updated the ticket and will
send out the

public review announcement hopefully later today.

http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322?focusedCommentId=24376&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_24376

-rcc

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:

> Robin,

> 

> With respect to the JMS XML Binding Schema, it has been developed
by the SCA Bindings TC, is a normative part of the JMS

> Binding Specification Version 1.1, and should be considered part of
the material for public review of the JMS Binding

> specification.  However the schemas overall for the SCA TC's
have been coordinated by the Assembly TC within the

> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912
 namespace, hence the location of the file within

> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/

> This relationship also applies to XML schemas from other SCA TCs.

> 

> I confirm that the version of the XML document at

> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
is the one which corresponds to CSD05 of the

> JMS binding spec.

> 

> The original request included a request for the diff to be generated
as part of the PR process, as this was combined with the

> CSD request and at that time the CSD document was not available.  Now
that the JMS specification CSDPR03 document is

> available I will create a diff between this and the cd04 version later
today.

> 

> Regards, Simon

> 

> Simon Holdsworth

> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings
TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898

> Internet - 

> 

> 

> 

> From:        Robin Cover <>

> To:        Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB

> Cc:        Robin Cover <>,


> Date:        24/01/2011 20:52

> Subject:        Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component Architecture

> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1

> 

> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

> 

> 

> 

> Simon,

> 

> I hope this restatement makes it easier for you or the TC to provide

> clarification on the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema",
but

> I am not able to determine whether it is truly a "part of"
the

> SCA JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1, since the apparent

> URI identifies the resource as part of a Work Product produced

> by the SCA Assembly TC.

> 

> Restatement of question about the status of the "JMS XML Binding
Schema"

> as part of the public review announcement for 'Service Component Architecture

> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1' (csprd03)

> 

> 1. The question arose because in the preceding public review of this

>    JMS Binding specification,

>    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html

>    the announcement identified the JMS XML Binding Schema
as part of

>    the review:

>    "The schema files are available at:

>    Schema:

>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd

> 

> 2. It seemed (to me) odd that a schema apparently developed by the

>    SCA-Assembly TC would be referenced as part of the review
for the

>    work product of the SCA-Bindings TC, but OK.... for now...
move on...

> 

> 3. On analogy, if the 'csprd03' public review announcement is to make

>    comparable reference to the machine-readable file for
the

>    JMS XML Binding Schema (sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd), the
proper

>    URI would be:

>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd

> 

> 4. That file was published on 03-Nov-2010 16:45, apparently as a product

>    of the SCA-Assembly TC

>    sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd  03-Nov-2010 16:45

> 

> 5. So we could just ignore the "JMS XML Binding Schema"
machine

>    readable file as part of the 'csprd03' public review
announcement,

>    but it seems that the latest published instance of the
"Service

>    Component Architecture Assembly Model Specification Version
1.1"

>    (at Committee Draft 06, 10 August 2010) punts to the
"SCA JMS

>    Binding Specification" as the source for the schema
file

> 

>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd06.html#_Toc270599635

>      (in Appendix A.9)

> 

>    "A.9 sca-binding-jms.xsd

>    Is described in the SCA JMS Binding specification [SCA-JMSBINDING]"

> 

>      which says:

> 

>    "[SCA-JMSBINDING ]

>    OASIS Committee Draft 04, "SCA JMS Binding Specification

>    Version 1.1 Version 1.1", May 2010

>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf
"

> 

> 6. In other words, it's difficult for me to determine whether the

>    "JMS XML Binding Schema" is properly a "part
of" the

>    Assembly Model Specification or part of the JMS Binding
Specification

> 

> 7. I'm sure the difficulty lies in my failure to appreciate how the

>    different specs align and cross-reference each other,
but in terms

>    of "part-whole" relations, I need to understand
whether the

>    "JMS XML Binding Schema" is defined canonically
and normatively

>    as "part of" one or the other specification.
 That declaration would

>    have implications as to where and when the Schema (now

>    apparently at:

>    http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
)

>    would be part of public review.

> 

> Sorry for my confusion here.

> 

> - Robin

> 

> ===== Other data:

> 

> Snippets from the SCA JMS Binding Specification csprd03

> 

> - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined
in

>    sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."

> - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization
of

>    the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific

>    attributes or elements.  This is done by providing
extension points

>    in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding
Schema:

>    sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension

>    points.

> 

> Robin Cover

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> 

> =============== initial message:

> 

> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201101/msg00016.html

> 

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Robin Cover wrote:

> 

> > Simon,

> >

> > I made a tour over the history of the request (18/Nov/10 05:19
AM)

> > and cannot account for why it got stalled apparently as of

> > 23/Nov/10 03:50 PM.

> >

> > If there are untidy details you think I need to understand to

> > process the public review request, please let me know, but

> > otherwise I think the fastest path is to just help with

> > clarifications and/or resources for the following, and then

> > we should be ready for the PR announcement.

> >

> > - Robin

> >

> > 1. Please confirm that the specification for this public review

> >   request has only one prose "part", referenced
in [1]

> >

> > 2. Please clarify whether the two "Schema"[s] cited
in

> >   the specification are normative, and whether we

> >   need to reference one or both by separate URI [2]

> >   in the public review announcement.

> >   My provisional opinion is that it suffice to reference/cite

> >   just this schema URI, although the prose spec seems not
to do

> >   so:

> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd

> >

> > 3. Changes/diff

> >

> >   Per TC Process "Changes made to a committee draft
after a

> >   review must be clearly identified in any subsequent review..."

> >   See questions below about the diff document or list

> >   of changes that should be referenced in the announcement

> >

> > 4. does the TC have a "recommendation from the TC of external

> >   stakeholders who should be notified of the review"
?

> >   ["none" is acceptable]

> >

> >

> > ===== References:

> >

> > [1] 'csprd03' as apparent subject of 15-day review

> >

> > Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version
1.1

> > Committee Specification Draft 05 /

> > Public Review Draft 03

> > 8 November 2010

> >

> > Specification URIs:

> > This Version:

> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html

> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.doc

> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.pdf

> > (Authoritative)

> >

> > * note that this spec was uploaded in November

> >

> > [2] Additional "parts" or schemas that may require
reference in the

> >    public review announcement

> >

> > a) [Spec Appendix] A. JMS XML Binding Schema: sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd

> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112160

> >

> > - is the "JMS XML Binding Schema" intended to be normative?

> >  If so, we expect a plain text file

> > - the apparent filename for the schema is "sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd"

> > - what is the corresponding URI?

> > - possible candidate URI is:

> >  http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd

> > - hint: previous public review suggests

> >  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html,
was:

> >  http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd

> >

> > snippets:

> >

> > - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema
defined in

> >   sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."

> > - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization
of

> >   the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific

> >   attributes or elements.  This is done by providing
extension points

> >   in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema:

> >   sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension

> >   points.

> > - from NS document at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912

> >  any hints?

> >

> > b) Spec section "3 JMS Binding Schema"

> >   http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112132

> >

> > - does this content for "JMS Binding Schema" have,
or need,

> >  and external file and URI?

> >

> > [3] Changes/diff

> >

> > In the submission request -322 (Additional Resources), the form

> > value states

> >

> >   "[3] http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease"

> >

> > Was that a request to have TC Admin produce a diff document?

> >

> > The diff we need should be a diff of B against A (right?):

> >

> > A:

> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04.doc

> > B:

> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csd05.doc

> >

> > If the TC can provide this diff document, it will be appreciated.
 If we need

> > to do it, I'll make arrangements.

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

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> >

> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:

> >

> >> Robin.

> >>

> >> I've still not seen a response to this request regarding
the JMS binding 15

> >> day review.  It is now over 2 months since the

> >> original request for PR was made. I would appreciate it if
you could

> >> acknowledge receipt of this mail and let me know the

> >> status/outlook for this public review request.

> >>

> >> Thanks, Simon

> >>

> >> Simon Holdsworth

> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,

> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

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> >>

> >> __________________

> >>

> >> Robin,

> >>

> >> Not sure if my previous mail got through to you... we are
still waiting for

> >> the 15 day public review to start as recorded in

> >>

> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322

> >>

> >> Thanks, Simon

> >>

> >> Simon Holdsworth

> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,

> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898

> >> Internet - 

> >>

> >> __________________

> >>

> >> I was under the impression we had resolved the dependency
for the XSD file

> >> for the JMS binding spec public review, I'd

> >> appreciate it if you could let me know current status of
this as I've not

> >> seen any announcement of the public review on the

> >> mailing list.

> >>

> >> The request is logged in

> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322
 which is in

> >> "submission review" state.

> >>

> >> Regards, Simon

> >>

> >> Simon Holdsworth

> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,

> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

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> >> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 06/01/2011
13:28 -----

> >>

> >> From:        Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM

> >> To:        

> >> Cc:        Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS

> >> Date:        13/12/2010 13:39

> >> Subject:        Re: [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft

> >> Review Request for Service Component Architecture JMS

> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1

> >>

> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

> 

> >>

> >>

> >> Mary,

> >>

> >> What is the status of this request now?  I believe Mike
Edwards has sorted

> >> out the updated XSD files for all the specs

> >> including this one.

> >>

> >> Thanks, Simon

> >>

> >> Simon Holdsworth

> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA
Bindings TC Chair,

> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

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> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From:        ""
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> >> To:        

> >> Date:        18/11/2010 10:22

> >> Subject:        [sca-bindings] 15-day
Committee Specification Draft Review

> >> Request for Service Component Architecture JMS

> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1

> >>

> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

> 

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> The following request has been submitted to the OASIS TC
Administrator on

> >> 18/11/2010:

> >> Submitter's Name

> >>   Simon Holdsworth

> >> TC Name

> >>   SCA Bindings

> >> TC Email Address

> >>   

> >> Work Product Title

> >>   Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification
Version 1.1

> >> Committee Specification Draft ##

> >>   csd01

> >> CSD URI

> >>  

> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40045/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04-rev3.doc

> >> Additional Resources

> >>   http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease

> >> Approval Link

> >>  

> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40245/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-11-11.doc

> >> Previous Public Review Announcement

> >>   http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html

> >> Abstract

> >>   SCA JMS Binding Specification

> >> TC Description

> >>   The SCA Bindings technical committee defines the manner
in which SCA

> >> composites and components communicate using a variety

> >> of protocols

> >> Notes

> >>   Please generate a diff from the previous published
PR version, which was

> >> cd04.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Thank you for your request. We will confirm receipt and schedule
the public

> >> review shortly. You can follow the progress at:

> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN

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