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Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12

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Simon Holdsworth <>
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2011-05-16T10:30:33+00:00
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Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12
Mike, thanks for stepping in to chair last
week's meeting.  I've uploaded the minutes document and agenda for
this weeks call.

One issue I noted from the minutes is
that Martin was noted as seconding the motion to resolve issue BINDINGS-161,
but at the time was not a voting member. I have added an item to this week's
agenda to ratify that motion.

Regards. Simon

Simon Holdsworth

From:      
 Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB

To:      
 "OASIS Bindings"
<>

Date:      
 13/05/2011 09:58

Subject:    
   Re: [sca-bindings]
Bindings TC Minutes - raw text, May 12

Attendees: 

Mike Edwards 

Tom Rutt 

Anish Karmarkar 

Eric Johnson 

Ashok Malhotra 

Plamen Pavlov 

Martin Chapman 

Yours, Mike 

Dr Mike Edwards

 Mail Point 137, Hursley
Park 

STSM

 Winchester, Hants SO21
2JN 

SCA & Services
Standards 
 United Kingdom

Co-Chair OASIS SCA
Assembly TC 
 

IBM Software Group

  

Phone:

+44-1962 818014

  

Mobile:

+44-7802-467431 (274097)

  

e-mail:



  

 

 

From:

Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB

To:

"OASIS Bindings" <>

Date:

12/05/2011 18:17

Subject:

[sca-bindings] Bindings TC Minutes -
raw text, May 12

AGENDA 

1. Opening 

Introductions 

Scribe assignment 

Top of the scribe list: 

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG 

David Booz IBM 

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation 

Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited 

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation 

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation 

Bryan Aupperle IBM 

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. 

Agenda bashing 

2. Approval of the minutes from 21 April: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42005/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-04-21.

3. Actions 

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110331-01 [Anish Karmarkar] Open issues for the two test assertion comments
(BWS-TA-50009, BWS-TA-50010) 

20110421-01 [Bryan Aupperle] Look up what the Assembly TC did in the cases
that Bryan referred to above [tests deferred to other specs] 

4. New Issues 

BINDINGS-160:  BWS50013's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that
appropriate? 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-160

BINDINGS-161: BWS50015's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that appropriate?

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-161

5. Open Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-152

BWS20027 is tested in the POJO tests 

Status: Proposed resolution pending AI 20110421-01 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-153

write new tests for TA-20021 TA-20022 TA-20028 TA-20032TA-20034 TA-20035
TA-40007 TA-50008 TA-50009 

Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-154

Clarify optionality of MAY statements in JMS binding spec 

Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-156

Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM30030 

Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-157

Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60009 

Status: Alternative proposed resolutions in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-158

Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60016 

Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-159

Clarify optionality of SHOULD statement BJM60001 

Status: No proposed resolution, needs discussion 

6. AOB 

Eric moves to have Mike Edwards act as pro-tem chair

Ashok seconds 

Motion approved unanimously 

Item 1 Agenda Bashing 

No changes 

Item 2 Meeting Minutes 

Minutes of 21st April 

Minutes accepted without change 

Item 3 Actions 

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110331-01 [Anish Karmarkar] Open issues for the two test assertion comments
(BWS-TA-50009, BWS-TA-50010) 

20110421-01 [Bryan Aupperle] Look up what the Assembly TC did in the cases
that Bryan referred to above [tests deferred to other specs]

Anish's item is DONE 

Bryan's item is DONE 

Item 4 New Issues 

BINDINGS-160:  BWS50013's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that
appropriate? 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-160

Anish describes the issue.  Derived from what we found when reviewing
the TAs for Web services. 

Anish moves to open Issue 160 

Ashok seconds 

Motion accepted unanimously 

Issue 160 is open. 

anish: Reword BWS50013 to read: 

"A WSDL 1.1 portType element associated with an SCA service or reference
MUST NOT have the 

WSCallback policy assertion attached" 

"associated with" is intended to cover both the referencing of
a concrete WSDL document from within 

an SCA XML document (by any element) and also cover the dynamic creation
and advertising of a 

WSDL by a runtime service. 

<we can even add these explanatory words if necessary>

anish: email that has the proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00011.html

anish: The following is the list of WSDL/1.1 elements whose scope contains
the 

Policy Subjects allowed for a WSCallback policy assertion but which cannot

have WSCallback policy assertions attached: wsdlPortType [BWS50013]

Anish proposed some modifications to this proposal (email here:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00014.html)

anish: 1) replace BWS50013 with: The following is the list of WSDL/1.1
elements whose scope contains the 

Policy Subjects allowed for a WSCallback policy assertion but which cannot

have WSCallback policy assertions attached: wsdlPortType

anish: 2) In section 6.1 add: "A WSDL 1.1 portType element associated
with an SCA service or reference MUST NOT have the

WSCallback policy assertion attached." 

anish: 3) follow (2) with: "associated with" is intended to cover
both the referencing of a concrete WSDL document from within

an SCA XML document (by any element) and also cover the dynamic creation
and advertising of a 

WSDL by a runtime service. 

Anish moves to resolve Issue 160 with the proposal contained in the minutes
above. 

Ashok seconds 

Motion accepted unanimously 

Issue 160 is resolved 

BINDINGS-161: BWS50015's target is a WSDL 1.1. document, is that appropriate?

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-161

Anish explains the issue. 

Noted that Mike Edwards expanded the scope to address BWS 50014 & BWS
50015 

Anish moves to open Issue 161 

Ashok seconds 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 161 is open 

Proposal from Mike:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00015.html

Replace the normative statements [BWS50014] and [BWS50015] with the following
text: 

"It is good practice for Policies and Assertions to be signed to prevent
tampering.  It is acceptable for 

an SCA runtime to reject a Policy that is not signed or where there is
no associated security token 

which indicates that the signer has appropriate claims for the policy."

Ashok moves to resolve Issue 161 with the proposal contained in the minutes
above. 

Martin seconds 

Motion accepted unanimously 

Issue 161 is resolved. 

Item 5 Open Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-152

BWS20027 is tested in the POJO tests 

Status: Proposed resolution pending AI 20110421-01

anish: Bryan's proposal: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41936/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.odt

anish: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41938/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.pdf

AI outcome is here: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201105/msg00013.html

Changes are in documentation of the TA. 

Anish moves to resolve Issue 152 with the proposal contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/41938/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-csd01-rev1%20Issue152.pdf

Ashok seconds 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 152 is resolved 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-153

write new tests for TA-20021 TA-20022 TA-20028 TA-20032TA-20034 TA-20035
TA-40007 TA-50008 TA-50009 

Status: Proposed resolution in JIRA 

Anish describes the proposal 

MartinC : Should should be treated as a must ala rfc2119

MartinC : its a must unless you have very good reasons not to support

AOB 

Bryan Aupperle request for LOA for May 19 

- no objections, LOA granted 

COB

Yours, Mike 

Dr Mike Edwards

 Mail Point 137, Hursley
Park 

STSM

 Winchester, Hants SO21
2JN 

SCA & Services
Standards 
 United Kingdom

Co-Chair OASIS SCA
Assembly TC 
 

IBM Software Group

  

Phone:

+44-1962 818014

  

Mobile:

+44-7802-467431 (274097)

  

e-mail:



  

 

 

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Unless stated otherwise above:

IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
741598. 

Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
3AU 

Unless stated otherwise above:

IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
741598. 

Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
3AU
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