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Re: [sca-bindings] Re: [TC Admin] Request for web ballot for CS with designated cross references

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Eric Johnson <>
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2013-04-26T18:03:31+00:00
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Re: [sca-bindings] Re: [TC Admin] Request for web ballot for CS with designated cross references
I, for one, would prefer that we fix the document so that HTML ends
    up with the proper links.

    

    Eric.

    

    
On 4/26/13 8:39 AM, Chet Ensign wrote:

    

    
      
      
Hi Simon, 
        

        

        
I confirm what Paul wrote. I try to keep TC Admin
          out of the content as much as possible lest we cause some
          problem with your content or create confusion about where some
          element of the content came from. 

        

        

        
If you all would like to fix those links as Paul
          has described so that they do work in the HTML, no problem at
          all. It will not require a new round of public review, just a
          reapproval with Non-Material Changes (see https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin/approving-a-committee-specification-or-note-draft-with-non-material-changes
          for an overview of how to do this). We will just hold the
          ticket open and wait for your updated working draft. 

        

        

        
Or we can proceed with the CSD as is. 

        

        

        
Please let me know how you'd like to proceed. I
          will wait to hear from you before starting the ballot. 

        

        

        
Best, 

        

        

        
/chet 

        

        

        

        

      

      

        

        
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Paul
          Knight <>
          wrote:

          
            
Hi Simon,  (copying Chet for confirmation of
              handling policy)
              

              

              
This took a bit of research and experimenting...

              

              

              
While we DO regenerate the files as we produce the
                Committee Specification, it turns out that the
                cross-reference links in your particular document will
                not be active links in the HTML version.  Apparently the
                way the cross-reference fields are defined in the
                document does not produce a hyperlink in the HTML
                version when it is generated by MS-Word.

              

              

              
I experimented a bit, and it turns out to be fairly
                straightforward to modify (actually replace) the links
                in the MS-Word document so that they will show up as
                HTML links, but it is a fix that must be applied to each
                instance separately. I'm pretty sure that Chet will not
                feel that this level of change is something that we (TC
                Administration) can do for the TC.

              

              

              
I have attached an example of the fix, in the DOC
                file and HTML output.

              

              

              
If you look at the third paragraph under Section 1 -
                Introduction, you will see three links to [WSDL11].

              
The first one is the one already
                in the document. The second and third ones are new ones
                which I added.  They are essentially the same, but I
                turned one into black text rather than default hyperlink
                color (usually blue), to demonstrate this option.  

              

              

              
You will see that all three links
                are functional in the MS-Word version, while the first [WSDL11] link
                does not function as a link in HTML, but the other two
                which I inserted function as expected.

              

              

              
The working links were created by
                selecting the text, then using right-click --->
                hyperlink, then "Place in this Document", then selecting
                the proper referent (place), which was previously
                defined when the non-working links were established.  I
                believe this will also work for the yellow text items or
                any of the cross-references in the document.

              

              

              
The changes I'm describing will
                definitely fall into the category of "non-material
                changes", so it would be possible for the TC to generate
                a new Working Draft with these link corrections, and
                still approve it as a Committee Specification without
                another two-week Public Review, if desired.  The
                Designated Cross-References can also be included, as in
                your current ballot request.

              

              

              
So I see two options - accept the
                non-working links in HTML, or fix them by producing a
                new Working Draft with non-material changes to the
                links.  If you want to make the changes, I believe we
                can keep the ballot request [1] open while the new WD is
                prepared, and then structure the ballot so it will
                approve the new WD for publication as a Committee
                Specification.

              

              

              
I hope this is fairly
                clear...Chet may have other suggestions as well...

              

              

              
Best regards,

              

                Paul

                

                [1] https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-1259

              

                

                  

                    

                      On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Simon Holdsworth
                      <>
                      wrote:

                      Paul,
                        

                        

                        I have entered the
                          request via the form.
                           
                        

                        

                        Please could you address
                          my final question
                          from the email:  the HTML version of the
                          specification in question
                          has some issues with hyperlinks, where the
                          links work in the PDF version
                          they don't in the HTML version.  Will the HTML
                          version be re-generated
                          as part of the DCR update, and if so, will
                          there be an opportunity to check
                          that these links do work in the CS version? 
                        

                        

                        Regards, Simon
                        

                        

                          Simon Holdsworth

                          STSM, WebSphere ESB Product Architect

                          MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester
                          SO21 2JN, UK

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                        From:
                               
                           Paul
                          Knight <>
                        

                        To:
                               
                           Simon
                          Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
                        
                        

                        Cc:
                               
                           ""
                          <>,
                          
                        

                        Date:
                               
                           22/04/2013
                          15:19
                        

                        Subject:
                             
                             Re:
                          [TC Admin]
                          Request for web ballot for CS with designated
                          cross references
                        

                        
                        

                          

                            

                            

                            

                            Hi Simon,
                            

                            

                            Congratulations to you and
                              the TC on your progress!
                            

                            

                            Please submit this request
                              (and the other expected CS
                              ballot requests as they are readied) into
                              the TC Admin work tracking system
                              by using the TC Admin Request Forms link,
                              from the "Resources"
                              tab on the main OASIS web site.
                            

                            

                            The request forms page is https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests.
                            

                            

                            The specific CS Ballot
                              request form is: 
                            

                            https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/committee-specification-ballot-request.
                            

                            

                            Thanks and best regards,
                            

                            Paul
                            

                            

                            

                            
                            

                            On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:59
                              AM, Simon Holdsworth <>
                              wrote:
                            

                            Hi, 

                            

                              The SCA Bindings TC recently resolved to
                              request a web ballot for Committee
                              Specification with Designated Cross
                              Rerefences. Please see minutes [1].
                               The resolution was as follows: 

                            

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                            

                              The TC approves the Chair requesting that
                              TC Administration hold a Special
                              Majority Ballot to approve the SCA Web
                              Service Binding Specification Version
                              1.1 contained in http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html
                              as a Committee Specification, in addition
                              the TC approves the Chair requesting
                              that TC Administration update the
                              following Designated Cross-References
                              as defined by https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#crossRefs
                              during publication of the Committee
                              Specification:
                              

                            

                              - Current reference to be updated:  line
                              31: [SCA-Assembly] OASIS
                              Committee Specification Draft 07, Service
                              Component Architecture Assembly
                              Model Specification Version 1.1, January
                              2011 http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-csd07.pdf
                            

                              Expected approval status and date:
                              Committee Specification, May 2013
                              

                            

                              - Current reference to be updated:  line
                              35: [SCA-Policy] OASIS Committee
                              Draft 04, SCA Policy Framework
                              Specification Version 1.1, September 2010
                            http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-policy/sca-policy-1.1-spec-cd04.pdf
                            

                              Expected approval status and date:
                              Committee Specification, May 2013
                              

                            

                              - Current reference to be updated:  line
                              38: [SCA-JCAA] OASIS Committee
                              Specification Draft 05, Service Component
                              Architecture SCA-J Common Annotations
                              and APIs Specification Version 1.1,
                              November 2010 http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-j/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-csd05.pdf
                            

                              Expected approval status and date:
                              Committee Specification, May 2013
                              

                            

                              - Current reference to be updated: line
                              91: [WS-Testcases] OASIS Committee
                              Draft 01, "TestCases for the SCA Web
                              Service Binding Specification
                              Version 1.1", July 2010, http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.pdf
                            

                              Expected approval status and date: Replace
                              with Latest version link.
                              

                            

                              The TC acknowledges that approval and
                              publication of the specification
                              may be delayed by the Designated
                              Cross-Reference Changes. 

                              The TC asserts that there is no material
                              change to the specification from
                              the last PR draft. 

                              (m: Mike Edwards, s: David Booz, no
                              objections) 

<<<<<<<<<<<< 

                            

                              Note: The referenced SCA-Assembly,
                              SCA-Policy and SCA-JCAA specifications
                              are expected to follow suit and request CS
                              ballots in the next few weeks.
                               The TC agreed that a specific version
                              (CS) references was needed
                              for these normative references.  They also
                              agreed that a "latest"
                              reference was appropriate for the
                              non-normative WS-Testcases reference.
                              

                            

                              I'd appreciate it if you could start the
                              web ballot, and coordinate the
                              updates to the specification document with
                              the other specifications as
                              their ballots (hopefully) pass. 

                            

                              One final comment; the HTML version of the
                              specification in question has
                              some issues with hyperlinks, where the
                              links work in the PDF version they
                              don't in the HTML version.  Will the HTML
                              version be re-generated
                              as part of the DCR update, and if so, will
                              there be an opportunity to check
                              that these links do work in the CS
                              version? 

                            

                              Thanks, Simon 

                              

                              Simon Holdsworth

                              

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        /chet 

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