RE: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and isnot applied recursively

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Michael Rowley <>
Date
2009-05-15T17:58:31+00:00
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RE: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and isnot applied recursively
Title: RE: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not
applied recursively

 

I like those changes.

 

From: Danny van der Rijn
[mailto:] 

Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:28 PM

To: Najeeb Andrabi

Cc: Michael Rowley; Anish Karmarkar; OASIS BPEL

Subject: Re: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and
is not applied recursively

 

After talking with Najeeb, I
agree with his objection to the word "choosing" implying that there
is a choice.  We suggest changing Michael's excellent proposal by removing
that word from the proposal:

·         
The number suffix generated for a partner link MUST be generated by
choosing the smallest integer that is large enough so that the resulting
name does not conflict with the service or reference name of any previous
partner link in the process.

Document enclosed that does that, fixes the "orginal"
typos, removes a colon, and changes "integer" to "positive
integer"

To see what this proposal would do to my pathological example:

Scope1

     shipping       
    -> shipping

     _shipping_2   
     -> _shipping_2

     receiving          
-> receiving              

    
_receiving_2        -> _receiving_2

   

  Scope2

   
shipping            
-> _shipping_1

   
receiving           
-> _receiving_1

   
_shipping_1          ->
__shipping_1_1

    _receiving_1        
-> __receiving_1_1

and if we make it slightly differently pathologically tailored to this
algorithm:

Scope1

     shipping       
    -> shipping

     _shipping_2   
     -> _shipping_2

     receiving          
-> receiving              

    
_receiving_2        -> _receiving_2

   

  Scope2

   
_shipping_1          ->
_shipping_1

   
_receiving_1         -> _receiving_1

   
shipping            
-> _shipping_3

   
receiving           
-> _receiving_3

Danny

Najeeb Andrabi wrote: 

 

I thought the
idea behind uniqueness of partner link names was that the

introspected/inferred component type will have deterministic and unique

service or reference names so that they can be ported across SCA

runtimes. Randomly choosing a small integer to make partner link names

unique makes them in-deterministic.

I had suggested in the last meeting that may be better approach would be

to let the uniqueness of partner link names be left to the user. I did

not realize at that time that user can add SCA constructs based on the

derived unique name of the partner link.

--Najeeb

-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Rowley [mailto:]

Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:47 PM

To: Anish Karmarkar; OASIS BPEL

Subject: RE: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and

is not applied recursively

It is too hard to handle this out of context, so here is a proposal that

is a change marked version of 2.3.

Michael

-----Original Message-----

From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:]

Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:53 PM

To: OASIS BPEL

Subject: [sca-bpel] [Issue 41]: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is

not applied recursively

Is now issue 41

http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41

-Anish

--

Anish Karmarkar wrote:

> Title: SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively

>

> Target: SCA BPEL C&I PR 01

>

> Description:

> SBPEL2022 states the following:

> "If any "_orginalName_i" (where 1 <= i <= N) is
already the name of a

> partner link declaration in the process definition, additional

> underscore characters MAY be added at the beginning of all aliases

> consistently to avoid collision."

>

> 'MAY' here means that some runtimes may not choose to do this. We want

> deterministic names that are independent of the runtime.

>

> It is also possible that after an additional underscore is added at

the

> beginning it still results in a conflict. SBPEL2022 needs to be

applied

> recursive till there is no collision.

>

> Proposal:

>

> Replace SBPEL2022 with --

> "If any "_orginalName_i" (where 1 <= i <= N) is
already the name of a

> partner link declaration in the process definition, then an additional

> underscore characters MAY  MUST be added at the beginning of all

aliases

> names, recursively, consistently to avoid collision, until a collision

> is avoided."

>

> (alternately, we can say something along the lines of "... additional

> minimum number of underscore characters that results in no collision

> MUST be added at the beginning of all names consistently."

>

> -Anish

> --

>

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