Re: [sca-bpel] Issue 41: proposal with examples -- version 2

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Mike Edwards <>
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2009-08-20T12:30:53+00:00
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Re: [sca-bpel] Issue 41: proposal with examples -- version 2
Folks,

A few editorial changes:

Yours,  Mike.

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From:
Anish Karmarkar <>

To:
OASIS BPEL <>

Date:
20/08/2009 07:36

Subject:
Re: [sca-bpel] Issue 41: proposal with
examples -- version 2

Attached.

The changes are based on discussions from last week. Diff between v1 and
v2:

1) Added SBPEL2ZZZ in anticipation of issue 52 resolution.

2) made the changes to the example as suggested by Danny.

3) Added the last paragraph in the proposal.

-Anish

--

Anish Karmarkar wrote:

> Danny van der Rijn wrote:

>> Strangely, I like this :-)  Thanks for taking the time, Anish,
to 

>> flesh this out in spec language.  I like the addition of

>>

>> "

>>

>> o         [SBPEL2YYY] If the sca-bpel:service
or sca-bpel:reference 

>> attribute is present on the partnerLink, its value MUST NOT be
a 

>> member of /S/. The value of the attribute is added to /S/ and

>> appropriate SCA service or reference is generated per section
2.1.1.

>>

>> "

>>

>> IMO it would be worth changing the example slightly to include
a use 

>> of SBPEL2YYY:

>>

>> <process …>

>>

>>   <partnerLinks>

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="shipping" "_shipping_1"

>> sca-bpel:service="shipping" ... />

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="_shipping_2" ...
/>

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="receiving" ... />

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="_receiving_2" ...
/>

>>

>>   </partnerLinks>

>>

>>  

>>

>>   ...

>>

>>  

>>

>>   <scope>

>>

>>     <partnerLinks>

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="shipping"
... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="receiving"
... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="_shipping_1"
... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="_receiving_1"
... />

>>

>>     </partnerLinks>

>>

>>  

>>

>>     ...

>>

>>  

>>

>>   </scope>

>>

>>  

>>

>>   ...

>>

>>  

>>

>> </process>

>>

>>

>> with the resulting tables remaining the same.

>>

> +1 to the change

> 

> I should also point out that the resolution of issue 52 will alter
the 

> algorithm as the sca-bpel:multiReference element can now have a name

> attribute.

>>

>>

>> However, the addition of SBPEL2YYY does bring up another edge
case.  I 

>> think I'm OK with not closing the loophole and just leaving this
sharp 

>> corner there for the few people in the world who will run up against

>> it, to mix my metaphors.  But I feel the need to point it
out, anyway.

>>

>> Consider a modification on the first example:

>>

>> <process …>

>>

>>   <partnerLinks>

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="shipping" ... />

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="_shipping_2" ...
/>

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="receiving" ... />

>>

>>     <partnerLink name="_receiving_2" ...
/>

>>

>>   </partnerLinks>

>>

>>  

>>

>>   ...

>>

>>  

>>

>>   <scope>

>>

>>     <partnerLinks>

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="shipping"
 sca-bpel:service="shipping" ... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="receiving"
... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="_shipping_1"
... />

>>

>>       <partnerLink name="_receiving_1"
... />

>>

>>     </partnerLinks>

>>

>>  

>>

>>     ...

>>

>>  

>>

>>   </scope>

>>

>>  

>>

>>   ...

>>

>>  </process>

>>

>>

>>

>> This would be an invalid document under SBPEL2YYY since "shipping"

>> will already have been assigned by the algorithm.

>>

> Indeed. IMHO, it is ok to call such a document non-conformant document.

> The creator specifically used the sca-bpel:service attribute to name
the 

> ref/service associated with the partnerLink and should have chosen
a 

> unique name.

> 

> But there is another case which is even tricker: when the creator
does 

> choose a unique name (as far as partner link names are concerned)
but it 

> still results in an invalid document.

> For example:

> 

> <partnerLink name="shipping" .../>

> <scope>

>    <partnerLink name="shipping" .../>

>    <parnerLink name="foobar" sca-bpel:service="_shipping_1
.../>

> </scope>

> 

> This is a result of the fact that we have a one-pass algorithm that
does 

> not do any look-ahead when mangling names. I think it is a trade off.

> I'm fine with the one-pass algorithm, but the useful guideline here
for 

> values of sca-bpel:service/reference attribute values is:

> don't use underscore as the 1st character of the name, don't use 

> integers preceded by underscore as the last characters of the name.

> 

> -Anish

> --

> 

>>

>> Anish Karmarkar wrote:

>>>

>>> Attached.

>>>

>>> This is based on the proposal that was sent by Danny (which
updated the

>>> proposal sent by MichaelR). I have added examples (that were
also sent

>>> by Danny in a different email).

>>>

>>> Comments?

>>>

>>> -Anish

>>> --

>>>

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