Re: [sca-j] Should introduction of @Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect theSemantics of an Unannotated Implementation

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Re: [sca-j] Should introduction of @Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect theSemantics of an Unannotated Implementation
On reading Mike's email again, I think
I misinterpreted it originally, and that we are probably in agreement here.
 I don't believe Mike or Vamsi were implying that having @Local on
an interface would mean that the implementation would no longer come into
the "unannotated" category.  This would mean that cases
1 and 2 in my list below can be combined.

    Simon

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Simon Nash/UK/IBM@IBMGB

27/08/2008 15:29

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Re: [sca-j] Should introduction of @Local
annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation

I take a slightly different view on this.  I think an unannotated
implementation is exactly that.  I don't think it means that all the
interfaces referenced by the implementation must also be unannotated.  However,
I'm open to discussion on the best way to handle this.  Perhaps we
need different rules for: 

 1. Unannotated implementation / unannotated interfaces

 2. Unannotated implementation / annotated interfaces

 3. Annotated implementation 

    Simon 

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Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB

27/08/2008 10:42

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Re: [sca-j] Should introduction of @Local
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Folks, 

An @Local annotation would certainly affect the semantics of an unannotated
implementation. 

An interface so marked would clearly indicate something relating to an
SCA reference. 

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.

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27/08/2008 09:09

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[sca-j] Should introduction of @Local
annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation

Simon,

Should the introduction of @Local annotation affect the "Semantics
of an

Unannotated Implementation" (section 8 in sca-javaci-draft-20070926.doc)

where we are currently using only interfaces marked with @Remotable in

computing the references/properties of an implementation?

++Vamsi

                    
                     
                     
        

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Raymond,

Minor nit: the @OneWay annotation applies to a method, not to an

interface.  Your example should be updated to show this.

In your example, these services are local.  Issue JAVA-3 has proposed
a new

annotation @Local that could be used on Interface1and Interface2 to allow

them to be recognized by the introspection algorithm.

I believe this discussion can be handled under JAVA-3 and there is no need

to create a new issue.

   Simon

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services offered by a Java    

                    
                     
implementation class without  

                    
                     
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Hi,

In Java Component Implementation Specification 1.00, we have the following

statements:

143 1.2.1.3. Introspecting services offered by a Java implementation

144 In the cases described below, the services offered by a Java

implementation class may be determined

145 through introspection, eliding the need to specify them using @Service.

The following algorithm is used to

146 determine how services are introspected from an implementation class:

147 If the interfaces of the SCA services are not specified with the

@Service annotation on the implementation

148 class, it is assumed that all implemented interfaces that have been

annotated as @Remotable are the

149 service interfaces provided by the component. If none of the

implemented interfaces is remotable, then by

150 default the implementation offers a single service whose type is the

implementation class.

What if an interface is annotated with SCA annotations such as @OneWay
or

@Callback?

For example:

public class MyServiceImpl implements Interface1, Interface2 {

}

@Callback(CallbackInterface.class)

public interface Interface1 {

}

@OneWay

public interface Interface2 {

}

By the spec, there is only one service named MyServiceImpl. But isn't it

more natural that we should find two SCA services: Interface1 and

Interface2? Please clarify.

Thanks,

Raymond

Raymond Feng

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