An appeal against TC Admin decision on Java package names

To the SCA-J TC:

In accordance with Section 4.2 of the TC Process Document
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#appeals),
and before the deadline stipulated in that Section, I hereby
acknowledge receipt of the appeal included below, and I inform the
TC of such appeal.

To the appellants:

I must also express deep confusion, as the "detail" section of
the Procedural part of the appeal stops short (April 24) without
acknowledging the fact that there was a long thread after that date,
which included the initiation of a formal appeal (May 2) and its
subsequent suspension (may 8)[1]. Apart from the fact that this does
not meet in its entirety the requirement that "Previous efforts to
resolve the objection(s) and the outcome of each shall be noted.",
I am not clear as to the relationship between the current appeal and
the previous one.  The previous one was suspended, not terminated,
so one could think of this as a request to restart it; however,
since the list of appellants in this case is not completely the same
as the list of appellants in the previous case, I am assuming, until
and unless I am told I am wrong, that this is a different appeal.

I am enclosing a couple of relevant email messages, in whose cc
list many of the current appellants (but not all) were included.

Please be aware that until such time as the appeal may be resolved
in favor of the appellants, the decisions taken by TC Administration
are valid and binding.

[1] Because of the very short interval between initiation and
suspension, there was no opportunity for me at that time to inform
either the TC or the Board of such an appeal.


On 11/26/2008 06:50 AM, David Booz wrote:
> Please excuse the second email. There is a typo in the (Proposed Resolution)
> 
> Any references to openoasis.org are incorrect and should be oasisopen.org.
> 
> Sorry for any confusion.
> 
> Dave Booz
> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
> e-mail:
> ----- Forwarded by David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 11/26/2008 09:47 AM -----
> 
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> From:	
> David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM
> 
> To:	
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> Cc:	
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> Date:	
> 11/26/2008 08:10 AM
> 
> Subject:	
> Appealing TC Admin decision on Java package names
> 
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> 
> 
> The undersigned Eligible Members of the OASIS SCA-J TC wish to appeal
> the decision by TC Admin attached below (ref. [1]).  This appeal is
> being submitted by
> individual members of the SCA-J TC, as required by the OASIS TC Process.
>  In addition, the SCA-J TC has voted to add its backing to this appeal
> by a unanimous vote.
> 
> Our grounds for this appeal are as follows.
> 
> TECHNICAL
> 
> (Summary)
> 
> The proposed package name prefix must be controlled by OASIS.
> 
> (Detail)
> 
> The decision comes in two parts.
> 
> 1. The need for the SCA Java APIs to change the package name prefix from
> "org.osoa " to a different package name prefix that is controlled by OASIS.
> 2. The need for OASIS to be able to control the proposed package name
> prefix of "org.oasisopen".
> 
>  (Proposed Resolution)
> This appeal concerns the second part of the decision.  The SCA-J TC
> discussed this and voted [2] not to accept the proposed package name
> prefix of "org.oasisopen" if it is not controlled by OASIS.  If OASIS is
> unable or unwilling to obtain the use of the "openoasis.org" domain,
> then the SCA-J TC would rather retain the use of the package name prefix
> "org.osoa".
> 
> PROCEDURAL
> 
> (Summary)
> 
> Part 2 of the decision is a reversal of the earlier decision which
> occurred without consultation with the SCA-J TC.
> 
> (Detail)
> 
> This issue was raised with TC-Admin on March 2 (ref. [3]).  TC-Admin
> sent a decision on March 7 (ref.[4])  On March 10 TC-Admin asked us to
> hold off from implementing the decision and said might be a couple of
> questions to be answered (ref. [5]).
> 
> Simon Nash (chair at the time) replied to TC-Admin on March 10 (ref.
> [6]) inviting her or other OASIS staff involved in the decision to
> discuss this matter with the SCA-J TC.  TC-Admin did not respond.  On
> March 25, Simon sent another email (ref. [7]) repeating my invitation to
> discuss this with the TC.  Again, TC-Admin did not respond.
> 
> On April 3 TC-Admin sent a response (ref. [8]) with a decision that
> completely reversed the original decision.  There had been no
> consultation with the TC about this change to the decision, despite two
> invitations to have this discussion.  TC-Admin also indicated that the
> decision was final (despite the lack of discussion) and that it could
> only be changed by formal appeal.
> 
> This decision was unacceptable to the TC for the technical reasons
> stated above.
> 
> On April 24 Simon sent TC-Admin an email informing her of this (ref.
> [9]), with a proposed resolution that would be acceptable to the TC, and
> asking if we could resolve this without need for an appeal.  TC-Admin
> acknowledged the email (ref. [10]) and indicate a reply in a few days.
>  TC-Admin's formal response came on Nov 5 (ref. [1]).
> 
> At this point we are up against the 30-day appeal deadline and the TC
> has exhausted all attempts to reach a mutually agreeable resolution
> through dialogue,
> despite all efforts to do this. The acceptable resolutions are
> summarized in the (Proposed Resolution) above.
> 
> We therefore feel we have no option but to initiate this formal appeal.
> 
>     David Booz         IBM                   OASIS SCA-J TC Co-Chair
>      Mark Combellack    Avaya                 OASIS SCA-J TC Co-Chair
>      Simon Nash         Individual            OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>     Martin Chapman     Oracle Corporation    OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>     Jim Marino         Individual            OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>     Anish Karmarkar    Oracle Corporation    OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>     Ashok Malhotra     Oracle Corporation    OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>      Mike Edwards       IBM                   OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>      Bryan Aupperle     IBM                   OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
>      Pradeep Simha      TIBCO Software Inc    OASIS SCA-J TC Voting Member
> 
> REFERENCES
> 
> [1]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200811/msg00017.html
> [2]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/30068/SCA%20Java%20Face%20to%20Face%20Minutes%202008-11-11%20to%202008-11-13.doc
> [3]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00000.html
> [4]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00022.html
> [5]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00026.html
> [6]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00027.html
> [7]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00060.html
> [8]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200804/msg00007.html
> [9]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200804/msg00044.html
> [10]
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200804/msg00045.html
> 
> Dave Booz
> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
> e-mail:


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