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Raw minutes for TC meeting of 16 August 2010

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Raw minutes for TC meeting of 16 August 2010
1. Roll call 

2. Confirm minute taker 

Derek Dougans (0) 

Graham Charters IBM (5) 

Yang Lei IBM (11) 

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3) 

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (17)

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (20)

Mike Edwards IBM (19) 

Bryan Aupperle IBM (24) 

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (1

3. Agenda bashing 

4. Meeting Minutes 

Vote to accept minutes from July 12
2010 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38605/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-07-12.doc

5. TC Administrivia: 

a. Recording issue status - 7 open 

b. Election of a co-chair 

6. ACTION ITEMS: 

a. 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an
example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 

b. 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182
and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I 

c. 2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the
necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218
discussions) 

d. 2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability
of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding 

e. 2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal
for Issue JAVA-182 

f. 2010-07-12-01: status=done: Mike
to produce CD01/PR01 package for CAA TC and TA and suite 

g. 2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline
schema to latest published Assembly Schema. 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html

7. New Issues (requires 2/3) 

a. ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply
to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict
this 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201

b. ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly
Test Assertions 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202

c. ISSUE 203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider
are not adequate 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203

d. ISSUE 204: Normative statement about
@BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204

e. ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA
testcase JCA_11009 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205

f. ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java
CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206

8. New spec revisions 

a. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00013.html

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals
(Spring/EJB/JEE) 

a. JAVA-109: Property and reference
names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109

Proposal in Jira 

Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs
needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182

No proposal (Ram) 

c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define
the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by
an application.composite file 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91

Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs
to define how effective CT is calculated 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93

Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the SCA-JEE Specification 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108

Waiting for updated proposal 

g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive
attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88

No proposal 

Plamen to check whether on his informal
JEE issues list 

10. Test Suite Discussion 

a. Updated documents 

POJO Test Assertions: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38844/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.pdf

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38845/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.odt

POJO Test Cases: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38853/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.pdf

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38842/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.odt

11. AOB 

a. straggler roll

Minute taker: Mike Edwards

Item 3 Agenda Bashing:

No changes

Item 4 Meeting Minutes:

Minutes from July 12th

Minutes are accepted for July 12 without
changes

Item 5 TC Adminstrivia

a) 7 Open Issues

b) Election of a Co-Chair

Mike E moves to elect Anish Karmarkar
as co-chair of the OASIS SCA-J TC

Seconded by Bryan

Motion passes unanimously

Anish is elected as co-chair of this
TC

Item 6 Action Items

a. 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an
example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 

b. 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182
and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I 

c. 2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the
necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218
discussions) 

d. 2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability
of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding 

e. 2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal
for Issue JAVA-182 

f. 2010-07-12-01: status=done: Mike
to produce CD01/PR01 package for CAA TC and TA and suite 

g. 2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline
schema to latest published Assembly Schema. 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html

Dave discusses the final item - that
the editors must update the content of the specs

It is just an editorial update of the
name of the SCA core XSD  file

Item 7 New Issues

ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply
to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict
this 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201

anish: original email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00061.html

Mike describes the issue, which is a
contradiction in the spec

Mike moves to open Issue 201.  Anish
seconds

Motion passes unanimously.

Issue 201 is opened.

ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly
Test Assertions 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202

Bryan describes the issue.

Bryan moves to open Issue 202. Mike
seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 202 is opened

ISSUE 203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider
are not adequate 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203

Mike describes the issue

Mike moves to open Issue 203.  Bryan
seconds.

Motion passes unanimously.

Issue 203 is opened

ISSUE 204: Normative statement about
@BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204

Mike describes the issue

Bryan: we added this when we added all
the JAXWS annotation material earlier this year

Mike moves to open Issue 204.  Bryan
seconds.

Motion passes unanimously.

Issue 204 is opened.

ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA testcase
JCA_11009 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205

Dave Booz: dont think it matters anish

Mike describes the issue

Mike moves to open issue 205. Bryan
seconds.

Motion passses unanimously

Issue 205 is opened

ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java
CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206

anish all the issues we have discussed
so far have been updated to have the right Assignee

Mike describes the issue

Mike moves to open Issue 206  Bryan
seconds

Motion accepted unanimously

Issue 206 is opened

anish: http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-j/

anish: so CD has been published but
PR not started?

ACTION: 20100816-01: Mike to chase up
with Mary what happened to the CAA Test Suite Public Review

ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply
to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict
this 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201

Mike explains the proposal in the JIRA

- broaden the declaration of @Remotable

Anish: Not sure what it means to have
@Remotable on a Field or a Setter Method...

Mike: It's the case where a reference
is being set through a Field or a Setter or a Constructor parameter, and
the interface type is one that does not have @Remotable - it allows the
use of a "non-SCA" interface (unannotated) in an SCA context,
where it is known that the interface really is remotable...

Mike moves to resolve Issue 201 with
the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.

Motion passes unanimously.

Issue 201 is resolved with the proposal
in JIRA

ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly
Test Assertions 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202

Bryan: There is a statement in the Java
CAA spec that effectively duplicates stuff in the Assembly spec relating
to not allowing method overriding in remotable interfaces.

Bryan Aupperle: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/201008/msg00009.html

Bryan Aupperle: Specifics are here:

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38876/sca-j-caa-1.1-testcases-cd01%20Issue202.odt

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38877/sca-j-caa-1.1-testcases-cd01%20Issue202.pdf

and here:

http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-j/TestCases/#_TestCases_

Above link is to the proposal email
and to the proposal documents

Changes:

a) Add normative link to the Assembly
spec

b) Add 2 new testcases 1001, 1002

(moved over from Assembly test suote)

c) Modify description of testcase 2001
to address Assembly TA 8001

All the testcases have been implemented
and do run correctly against Apache Tuscany

+ changes in the appendixes in the back

Dave - should the references to the
Assembly TAs be explicitly tagged?

Mike: That is a simple editorial question

Bryan moves to resolve issue 202 as
described in the email http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/201008/msg00009.html.
 Seconded by Anish

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 202 is resolved

ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java
CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206

Mike outlines the proposal in the JIRA
- small changes to each of the testcases

Mike moves to resolve Issue 206 with
the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 206 is resolved with the proposal
in JIRA.

ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA testcase
JCA_11009 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205

Mike describes the proposal in the JIRA

Mike moves to resolve Issue 205 with
the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.

Motion passes unanimously.

Issue 205 is resolved with the proposal
in JIRA.

AOB

Stragglers

COB

Next meeting 23 August

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.

Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.

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