RE: Notion of session: picture

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Tim Moses <>
Date
2001-01-31T21:45:39+00:00
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RE: Notion of session: picture
Title: RE: Notion of session: picture

Bob - My reading of the AuthXML content on "sessions" was that it intended to support scenarios such as this ...

A Principal has conducted a session with Application A.  There is an accumulated state associated with that session, and this is to be transferred to Application B (presumably state accumulated in Application A is meaningful to Application B).

The state is not a property solely of the Principal, so a name assertion or entitlement assertion is not entirely appropriate.  This state is a property of the session, so a session message was used.  If we are combining the two specifications and preserving their capabilities, but extracting any "assertions", then we need a "session assertion".

This seems to be orthogonal to your discussion of scoping assertions that are directly associated with the Principal.  No?

Best regards.  Tim.

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Subject: Notion of session: picture

I got to thinking visually and produced the following .ppt diagram of what

the model for our specification

looks like in my mind.

I've included core tokens, how the flow from services to applications

through request/response XML protocols,

and how they are transmitted via protocol bindings from one application to

another.  I've also included in

dotted lines my notion of the two places where a notion of session would be

appropriate -- one in the

protocol binding layer (specified by us) and the other in the pre-existing

communcations protocol infrastructure

(specified by others and relied upon by us).

I've also distinguished visually between "tokens" which are just the raw

assertion, and "bound tokens" which

might also be signed etc... in order to protect them appropriately for

their environment of intended use (this was

the substance of my discussion about making signatures optional on the main

mailing list).

I hope the diagram is helpful.

I'm attaching both the .ppt source and a .pdf

(See attached file: OASIS-model.ppt)

(See attached file: OASIS-model.PDF)

--bob

Bob Blakley

Chief Scientist, Security

Tivoli Systems, Inc.