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RE: [smartgrid-interest] Draft Charter - Energy Market InformationExchange (GEOSPATIAL)

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RE: [smartgrid-interest] Draft Charter - Energy Market InformationExchange (GEOSPATIAL)
I had to comment on the Geospatial portion of this.

 

DR (Demand Response) is the means that the utilities use today
to get users to shed load (“Nega-Watts”) during times of peak load.
In some regions, they will pay handsomely for this shed. There is a critical
mid-market group known as the DR Aggregators. Depending on local policy and
politics, many of the utilities have a love/hate relationship with the DR Aggregators,
either seeing them as a middle-man to be gotten around, or a critical service
provider. DR Aggregators are often involved with building performance
optimization or business process re-engineering as appropriate.

 

As might be expected in such a prickly relationship, the DR
Aggregators are not necessarily interested in revealing all of their customers
by name. On the other hand, as the T&D grid is definitely a flowing network
with bottle necks, it may be necessary to report on exactly which portion of
the grid the reduced load is going to be achieved. 

 

If the end nodes (homes, businesses, industry) know their point locations,
using OGC specs (KML?), to report location of NG-911, then the value/cost ratio
improves, getting a two-fer on the initial set up. If the [distribution] grid
is described as an OGC specified polygon, then it becomes straightforward for
the aggregator to sum DR promises by geographic polygon / rete of the grid. If
the bottle-neck is further upstream, it becomes straightforward to sum across
polygons. If two competing DR Aggregators are working the same territory, it
becomes simple to sum those reports for the same polygon, and price appropriately.

 

And if they fail, and that substation fails, and that same
polygon is down, then that is another report back to the first responders
indicating intersections where traffic cops needs to direct traffic, and
neighborhoods that may require increased patrols…

 

 

tc

 

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the wrong, which is but saying ... that he is wiser today than yesterday."
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  Facilities Technology Office

  University of North Carolina

  Chapel Hill, NC

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
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From: William Cox
[mailto:] 

Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:54 PM

To: Lance McKee

Cc: ; Carl Reed OGC Account; Mark
Reichardt; Christopher Groome; Kang Lee; 

Subject: Re: [smartgrid-interest] Draft Charter - Energy Market
Information Exchange

 

Lance -

Thanks for the suggestions (1-3) below; they'll be in the next draft of eMIX.

Also reaching out to NAESB, looking for guides to their work -- any assistance
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

bill

--

William Cox 

Email: 

Web: http://www.CoxSoftwareArchitects.com

+1 862 485 3696 mobile 

+1 908 277 3460 fax 

Lance McKee wrote: 

Bill,

 

A few suggestions for the draft charter for the
proposed OASIS Energy Market Information Exchange (eMIX) Technical Committee:

 

1)   The draft charter states, "European markets
have an additional area of interface, between Transmission and Distribution (in
American terminology), as these are typically under separate ownership. As time
allows, or in a future update, the TC may address those needs as well."
 I think it's important for your "Enterprise View" to include
these needs without fail, because 

-- Customer ownership of microgrids (a la Galvin Institute's
"Perfect Power") will be likely be a critical factor in the
transition from centralized to distributed generation, globally. Distributed
generation is very much driven by new opportunities for distributed ownership
and control of energy assets.

-- Global product deployment and customer acceptance of the
new standards will require international participation, or at least
consideration of other nations' requirements, in the development of the
standards. Larger markets encourage investment, innovation, technology convergence
and lower prices, so everyone will benefit if the standards are global. Rapid
national and global market rollout of distributed generation has important
national and global security benefits and economic benefits.

 

2)  The Enterprise view for Smart Grid commerce
standards needs to explicitly state that ownership of each physical
"feature" (meter device, device metered, building, right of way,
etc.) matters. 

 

3)   The Enterprise View for Energy Market
Information Exchange should explicitly state the need for standards to
support measurement, control and real-time buying/selling (and sometimes
regulating) not only of electricity but also of fuels and combustion (and
emissions, such as wood smoke in urban settings), water and sewage and perhaps even
bandwidth usage. Also, end user and small generator participation in carbon
trading needs to be explicitly enabled and not inadvertently precluded by the
standards. Detailed standards for the electric power markets should come first,
but as part of a comprehensive and coherent high level "smart pipes and
wires" standards framework.

 

4) I missed the end of the comment period for the draft
charter of the OASIS Energy Interoperation TechnicalCommittee, so I failed to register
my comment (offered as an OGC consultant) that indoor and outdoor spatial
locations and spatial relationships matter. But this is important for commerce
as well. Geospatial standards from the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC), ISO
TC/211 and IEEE 1451 are in wide use and need to be incorporated into the Smart
Grid standards ecosystem. OGC and the buildingSMART Alliance recently completed
the first in a planned series of multi-sponsor, multi-participant
AEC-Owner-Operator (AECOO) Testbeds in which energy is an important focus.
Follow-on AECOO Testbeds will likely involve the OGC Sensor Web Enablement and
IEEE 1451 "smart transducer" standards. OASIS has a memorundum of
understanding with the OGC. The OGC's CTO is Carl Reed (). The
buildingSMART alliance contact for the AECOO testbed is Christopher Groome (). The IEEE
Instrumentation and Measurement Society’s Sensor Technology Technical
Committee is chaired by Kang Lee ().

 

Thank you for the opportunity to offer these comments.

 

Lance

 

Lance
McKee

phone/fax:
508-752-0108

cell:
508-868-2295



 

 

On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:43 PM, William Cox wrote:

I've attached a draft charter for the proposed OASIS Energy
Market Information Exchange (eMIX) Technical Committee.

This TC is intended to address the prices, market characteristics, and other
information for energy trading, buying, and selling. I was inspired to start
working on this from discussions in and around the NIST Building-to-Grid and
Industry-to-Grid Domain Expert Working Groups, and continued interest from
first round reviewers and from people attending GridEcon 2009 in Chicago (http://www.gridecon.com -- slides are
available on line at the agenda link).

From my perspective as an enterprise software architect, this fits into a
simple three layer stack with interoperation protocols (how to
communicate) as the fundamental layer. I put the Energy Interoperation
TC/OpenADR work here, with parts of the message payload in the next layer.

The middle layer is what is communicated -- for markets, things
like price, quantity, units, time (of use), and characteristics of the energy
sold -- from source (e.g. gas-fired plants, coal, solar, coal plant with
scrubbers, wind) to derived information (e.g. carbon data), and also trading
information (is this a bid, a price quote, an accepted transaction?).

The goal is to create an XML vocabulary that can be used in a broad range of
market exchanges with minimal differences (and where there are differences,
arranged in a simple way) for the various consumers of the information.

The third layer is the market design and definition; since markets have varying
degrees of complexity I'm leaving this alone for now :-). This is a potentially
complex area, and an interesting one. Accordingly, I'd like to carefully define
the EMIX work to focus on layer two.

I invite you to participate in a discussion on how to improve this charter, as
well as the sorts of characteristics that are important to energy markets.

If you would like to be listed on the charter when submitted as a supporter,
please contact me or Toby Considine.

Comments to me or (preferably) to the list. Please reference line numbers where
appropriate.

Thanks!

-- 

William Cox 

Email: 

Web: http://www.CoxSoftwareArchitects.com

+1 862 485 3696 mobile 

+1 908 277 3460 fax 

<Energy Market Information Exchange TC Charter
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