Re: [smartgrid-interest] Report coming out of Smart Grid SDO Conference

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"Cenjamin B. Qolfe"
Date
2009-08-11T16:14:50+00:00
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702AEC86A6B34B949DF12F9301256F34@RunningDog2
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Re: [smartgrid-interest] Report coming out of Smart Grid SDO Conference
It is good that the 'blurring between DR and DER is 
being recognized...my goal is to 'blur' not just in the middle but the rest too. 
The key word in DER is "Distributed", and ultimately I see distributed control 
as the key feature. The 'response' to 'demand' MUST be a lot more options than 
just turning things off: Ultimately I think in terms of distributed energy 
management, where the local energy management entity responds to the signals 
depending on the resources it has available. But that's just me (a 
distributed kind of guy :-).

-B

 

 

  
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  Considine, Toby (Campus Services 
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Subject: [smartgrid-interest] Report 
  coming out of Smart Grid SDO Conference

  

  

  
I prepared the attached schedule as a summary of issues 
  most relevant to the Energy Interoperability TC coming out of the Smart Grid 
  SDO Conference on August 3-4. I am sharing it with these lists, with the note 
  that while it is OASIS-centric, it does clarify the path to information 
  exchanges necessary to get the smart load the smart grid needs.

  
 

  
(translation note: EMIX = Energy Market Information 
  Exchange TC, now in formation)

  
 

  
High Level overview:

  
 

  
WS-Calendar will be done by year end, to be used as a 
  component in Price and in Energy Interoperability. We can use place-holders 
  until then.

  
 

  
EMIX, now in formation, is due out for review in April 
  2010. EMIX will itself consume WS-Calendar. EMIX (Price/Product) is critical 
  to almost every Energy Interoperation – we will have to use placeholders until 
  then.

  
 

  
NIST will unveil the Smart Grid Roadmap, based upon the 
  EPRI work, at GridWeek in September. 

  
 

  
Numerous groups are working on the common semantics, use 
  cases for Price, Product, DR, and DER. These groups are due to complete their 
  work in October, for report-out at GridInterop in November. These reports will 
  be donated to Energy Interoperation and to EMIX.

  
 

  
Issues from the Workshop

  
 

  
Prices and Pricing. These words created a lot of 
   discord. Dynamic pricing is an appropriate goal for Energy 
  Interoperation. Pricing is not. Pricing, to many, refers to algorithms as to 
  how a price is computed. This conflict of terms caused much dissension, 
  discussion until we recognized the issue. EMIX communicates Prices, not 
  Pricing.

  
 

  
Product Attributes. Mike Oldak brought one half of the room 
  around when he declared that Product Attributes are better referred to as 
  Terms and Conditions. This is probably a good lens to look at this issue 
  with

  
 

  
Also from Mike Oldak

  
 

  
There are three kinds of DR:

  
-          
  Pure prices, and you can do what you 
  want

  
-          
  Contracted Response, in which the end node responds as 
  per contract when signaled

  
-          
  Emergency Curtailment

  
 

  
Committee notes and Directions

  
 

  
Energy Interoperation includes DR and DER. DR and DER blur 
  in the middle: turning something off or running on stored energy have the same 
  effect on the grid load. The Committee Draft 1 for Energy Interoperation would 
  benefit from the clarity of this summary.

  
 

  
In terms of grid interactions with the end nodes, there is 
  another fast track initiative on sharing customer energy usage with the end 
  node and delegable to third parties. This standard, current with the overly 
  general name ADE (Automated Data Exchange) can present one of the longest 
  requested sources of information to the building and home automation 
  market.

  
 

  
The Energy Interoperation Committee may want to create a 
  subcommittee to prepare white papers on Energy Interoperation and the many 
  standards. Such a white paper could revise and extend the narrative portions 
  of the CEC OpenADR specification, and create models defining communications 
  between end nodes and the grid. EMIX to understand what’s on the market, 
  Energy Interoperability to negotiate price and response with the grid, and 
  [son of ADE] to act as the feedback/regulator.

  
 

  
tc

  

  

  

  

  

  
  

  

  
"You can cut all the 
  flowers but you cannot keep spring from coming."
-Pablo 
  Neruda.

  

  

  

  

  
  

  
    
    

      
        
Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

        
Chair, OASIS oBIX Technical Committee
OASIS Energy 
        Interopreration TC

        
OASIS Technical Advisory 
      Board

      
        
  

      
        
Email: 
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