RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology (M*4?)

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RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology (M*4?)
What 
Steve doesn't have napkins where he is?

 

I am 
interested in Steve presenting NNL (Napkin Notation Language) as 
well.

 

:)

 

- 
Dan

 

 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Miko Matsumura 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
  3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: 
  [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology 
  (M*4?)

  
Hi Mike and company,

  
 

  
I'm looking forward to discussing and resolving the 
  "layers" approach which is implicit in the MW2 consulting blueprints (distinct 
  from the OASIS blueprint effort, just sharing the name) and how this can 
  inform the path towards stratifying the appropriate architectural models, 
  patterns and practices.

  
 

  
I'm also looking forward to seeing Steve demonstrate his 
  notation and methodology on Coalogic, although I understand he is travelling 
  and may be unable to draw for us at the moment.

  
 

  
Best,

  
Miko

  

  
  From:  
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
  3:05 PM
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Subject: RE: 
  [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology 
  (M*4?)

  

  
This 
  is a very interesting evolution in our direction.

  
When 
  I get time next week I will toss more things on the wiki helping to flush out 
  the Coalogic example in this way.

  
 

  
- 
  Dan

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From: Morris, Michael 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
    12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [soa-blueprints] 
    Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology (M*4?)

    

    
There are some very interesting approaches that 
    Microsoft is taking across the stack here.  They are really pushing 
    their System Definition Model as a part of their DSI strategy to model 
    (hardware, applications, IT web services, etc) from the infrastructure 
    domain.

    
 

    
Granted, you have to use all Microsoft tools (eg. 
    Visual Studio 2005, Virtual Server 2005, etc) but they do provide a DSL 
    builder to allow others to create tools that generate models that can be 
    leveraged in other modeling environments.

    
 

    
I'd like to see if we may want to take a vendor 
    agnostic modeling approach with the SOA Blueprint:   
    

    
*   Start with the business problem and 
    define it

    
*   lets model a business problem 
    utilizing a set of business tools - use CapGemini's contribution and put 
    this metadata in a model.   

    
*   Then can we find the right DSLs (they 
    don't have to be Microsoft) that produce artifacts for every "layer" of the 
    architecture that we can tie together in a reference solution model to solve 
    that particular business problem.    
    

    
*   We can utilize a semantic integration 
    approach to tie together multiple models

    
*   Package this as a best practice 
    approach to the industry

    
 

    
just an idea on an 
    approach...

    
 

    
Thoughts?

    
 

    
Mike

    
 

    
 

    

    

    
    

    
From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
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Subject: RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft 
    Motion Modeling Methodology (M*4?)

    
 

    

    
 

    

    
 

    

    
Here is more food 
    for thought:

    

    
- http://blogs.msdn.com/askburton/articles/330974.aspx

    

    
- http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvsent/html/vsts-msf.asp

    

    
 

    

    
 

    
      
-----Original 
      Message-----
From: John 
      Harby [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
      10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [soa-blueprints] 
      Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology (M*4?)

      

      
Hasn't Rational XDE been covering that 
      one?
[Marchant, Dan 
      R.] Yes but it doesn't have microsoft's plan for world domination in 
      mind. Starbucks and Microsoft should probably merge at some 
      point.

    
      

      
 

      

      
On 11/2/05, Duane Nickull <> 
      wrote: 

      
This is old news.  Visio has been doing 
      UML models since they bought it.
The concept of linking that to a .NET 
      IDE is cool IMO.

Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: 
      Porch Robert [mailto: 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:18 
      AM
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      Nickull 
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Subject: 
      RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling 
      Methodology
(M*4?)

I believe that you may be very close based on 
      what I have seen. 

-----Original Message-----
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      Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:25 AM 
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Subject: RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling 
      Methodology
(M*4?)

I believe this is the major tool initiative 
      they are working on for the
end of the year or q1 next year 
      release.
Think of RUP with a microsoft toolset and microsoft framework 
      applied to 
it.

That is basically what they are looking at doing 
      I believe.

But I can neither confirm or deny this 
      :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Miko Matsumura [mailto: 
      ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:54 
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To: Duane Nickull
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Subject: 
      RE: [soa-blueprints] Microsoft Motion Modeling Methodology 
      
(M*4?)

Anyone have any insights on this?

http://weblogs.asp.net/omagnusson/archive/2005/07/28/420856.aspx

Microsoft 
      Motion Business Modeling Methodology 

At the Tech Ed 2005 Europe 
      Architecture pre-con Beat Schegler and
Arvindra Sehmi talked about a 
      methodology framework that MCS have been
working on called Motion which 
      is supposed to be:

"The Motion Methodology uses the concept of 
      Business Capabilities to 
model a business. A Capability describes the 
      what, not the how. A
Capabilities Model abstracts structural 
      information (capabilities and
connections) separately from dynamic 
      information (processes)"

Motion decomposes the whole business into 
      capabilities on many levels of 
granularity ( level 1-3), where level 1 
      represents core business
capabilities (eg. Warehousing), level 2 
      represents capability groups
(eg. Manage Products/Orders) and level 3 
      represent the business
capabilities (order products, track etc. ). Each 
      business capability 
then has 80 attributes which describe it, such as 
      who owns it, input and
outputs, best practices and 
      exceptions.

On top of this we then layer our business processes. 
      which manage and
orchestrate messages going between these business 
      capabilities. 

The Framework is supposed to come with a complete 
      set of deliverables
templates and tasks and a unique "go in, go up, go 
      out" approach to
modeling these business capabilities and processes, 
      FAQs, case studies 
and the while shebang.

When goggling around 
      for this, I've not been able to come up with
anything so far. Are there 
      any news on this, when this will be released
and to whom ? Will it be 
      publicly available like MSF or only to partners 
?

I can see the 
      tooling for this going hand in hand with DSL tools in 
      the
future.
posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:30 
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