RE: [soa-blueprints] Questions to the Group

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RE: [soa-blueprints] Questions to the Group
+1

  
-----Original Message-----
From: John Harby 
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  Questions to the Group

I think this liason makes sense and 
  since we had discussed a third subgroup or subcommittee on the first call this 
  could be a function of that entity.

  
On 12/15/05,  <> wrote: 
  
  I 
    vote for keeping it on right now or having a working committee where the Soa 
    Logic working group and the Generico group can exchange information to keep 
    the approaches pretty unified. 

Maybe the SoaLogic points to Generico 
    for the supporting part of it.

-----Original Message-----
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    Miko Matsumura [mailto:]
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    Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:42 AM 
To: John Harby; Marchant, Dan 
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    RE: [soa-blueprints] Questions to the Group

Since there are 
    existing implementations of Generico, we should certainly not rock the boat 
    too greatly, however, creating a context where SOAlogic and Generico can 
    sensibly be related is a good idea imho. Is there interest in creating 
    SOALogic and Generico subcommittees? 
    

Miko

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       From: John Harby 
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    Sent: Thu 12/15/2005 8:39 AM
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    Subject: Re: [soa-blueprints] Questions to the 
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       I disagree. I am in 
    favor of the discussion on the last call which proposed separating the 
    Generico update activity and developing the others in parallel. One primary 
    reason is the maturity of Generico combined with the existing 
    implementations. 

       On 
    12/15/05,  <> 
    wrote:

               
    1. Do we want to combine the SoaLogic (previously CoaLogic) with Generico 
    Requirements? 
    
                  Proposal 
    of how it would fit 
    together:
                      - 
    "HR Supporting Service" would be based entirely on the Generico Requirements 
    contribution
                          - 
    Generico would be put into the following sections 
    
                              - 
    HR Supporting Service 
    Model
                              - 
    HR Supporting Service 
    Architecture
                              - 
    HR Supporting Service 
    Mapping

                 
    This would give the Case Study currently on Kavi "working folder" the 
    following parts: 
    
                  - 
    An Enterprise View - Soa 
    Logic
                  - 
    A Project View - Soa Logic product introduction "lawn 
    vacuum"
                  - 
    A Supporting Service View - 
    Generico

                 
    Would help in having the same people that would be working on a generico 
    update contributing to a more exhaustive case study/blueprint realization. 
    

               
    2. Do we have a framework/blueprints document like the one on Kavi "working 
    folder" to illustrate the general patterns that anyone can realize with the 
    reference of a realization being the case study document? 
    

               
    3. Do we have a seperate methodology document or set of documents that 
    faciliate a user of the framework/blueprints document to get to a 
    realization?

               
    So the proposal would be to have the following deliverables: 
    
               
    DOC-1. SOA Adoption Blueprints - creates a framework type document for 
    anything that can be 
    generalized
                      - 
    contains the work from the SOA Blueprints Concepts document from the 
    Middleware group, within service types section 
    
                      - 
    contains some parts of the Capgemni contribution as a service model 
    section
               
    DOC-2. SOA Case Study - Soa Logic - incorporates the work from the generic 
    requirements document and the existing Soa Logic content 
    
               
    DOC-3. SOA Methodology - builds on the Capgemni 
    contributions

               
    Thoughts,

               
    Dan