Re: [soa-blueprints] To Proceed - Best Practices

From
John Harby <>
Date
2006-01-24T18:05:53+00:00
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Re: [soa-blueprints] To Proceed - Best Practices
I would be in favor of a repository of best practices that are not
necessarily tied to a single blueprint but can certainly reference one
or more blueprints.

On 1/24/06, Beack, Theo <> wrote:

If we decide to include best practices under the 
general Adoption Blueprint "umbrella", it would be helpful to understand the 
relationship between the blueprint and associated best practices. Immediate 
questions I have is whether we will create "one off" best practices related to a 
specific blueprint or whether we would try to make them generic enough to be 
used within other blueprints. If that is the case, do the best practices deserve 
to stand on their own and should we create a classes of best practices that can 
be reused within Adoption Blueprints (or even separately).

 

Theo

From: John Harby [mailto:] 

Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:38
To: 

Subject: Re: [soa-blueprints] To 
Proceed - Best Practices

Possibly although I think there are loopholes within the charter that 
would allow us to specify best practices. Firstly, the Generico blueprint has 
some treatment of best practices therefore inclusion and advancement of those is 
included by this statement:

  
Circulate, improve, maintain and standardize the existing "Generico" 
  blueprint to be contributed, in the form of a basic Adoption Blueprint. 

On 1/24/06, Beack, 
Theo <> 
wrote:
Don,

I'm 
  not convinced that we agreed on the role or place for best practices
as 
  part of the Blueprints TC. I reviewed the charter of this TC
( 
  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/soa-blueprints/charter.php) and 
  it
made no mention of best practices. Not that I think it is a bad 
  idea.
The notion of creating best practices could be of 
  value.

However, we need to determine whether this TC will focus it's 
  efforts on 
only creating SOA blueprints (+ anti-patterns) or whether best 
  practices
will be included in these efforts.

I think one of the 
  dangers of trying to focus our efforts on best
practices, is that we might 
  enlarge the scope to the extent that it will 
be difficult to focus and get 
  some real blueprint work done. It is
definitely a topic worth 
  discussing.

Regards
Theo

-----Original 
  Message-----
From: Don Flinn [mailto: 
  ]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 13:57
To: 
Cc: 
 
  
Subject: Re: [soa-blueprints] To Proceed

Agreed.

In 
  addition, I believe that one of the goals that was agreed upon 
  is
developing best practices, BP.  These could be partitioned 
  into the
following categories: 
- General BP, which would be applicable 
  to all domains
- Domain Specific BP, where the domains might 
  be:
   - Financial
   - 
  Manufacturing
   - Retail
   - Professional 
  services
   - Business services (not SOA services) 
  
   - Media & Marketing
   - 
  Education
   - Government

Each of these could be further 
  subdivided, but too fine a subdivision,
IMHO, is not in the spirit of a 
  specification.  If we could come up with 
best practices at this 
  level we would deliver information that would be
useful to a broad category 
  of people.  We could point out significant
exceptions or 
  additions for subcategories of the chosen domains.
Although the primary 
  effort would be to generalize the BP as much as 
feasible while still 
  making them useful.

Don

On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 11:49 -0600,  
  wrote:
> To All,
>
> Here is what I gather from the group as 
  a whole: 
>
> 1. Need a context on what we are 
  doing.
>     - 2 cents:  A problem 
  statement would be a great start with
audience, etc...
>
> 2. 
  Need to defining use cases to provide context on the blueprints 
  
defined
>      - 2 cents: establish a 
  use case document that can be expand on
> this and may have domain 
  related spin offs
>
> 3. Need to establish what a blueprint 
  is.
>
> I think everyone should start adding to this list and 
  adding opinions, 
etc...
>
> This may help to create a bit of 
  focus or strategy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 
  Dan
>
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