RE: [soa-rm-ra] random question

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Chiusano Joseph <>
Date
2006-08-24T13:30:21+00:00
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RE: [soa-rm-ra] random question
Not types of service providers; service providers that provide certain 
types of services (e.g. data service provider = service provider of data 
services).

 

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From: Ken Laskey [mailto:] 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:49 AM
To: Chiusano 
Joseph
Cc: Michael Stiefel; 

Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random 
question

Joe,

But I'm not sure "types" of service providers is relevant.  I look at 
a service description, decide if the real world effects are what I want (and 
whether the rest of the execution context stuff can be aligned), and then I 
proceed with the interaction.  If I ask for information, I don't know 
(unless I have a business reason for this to be part of my rationale for which 
service to use) if it is "data" from a database, results from a simulation, or 
Mechanical Turk.

Ken

On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

  

  
I think it's a question of 
  service providers, but more specifically of what *types* of services. So there 
  can be data service providers, perhaps process service providers (e.g. 
  BPEL-based processes), and perhaps even application service providers in a 
  different sense than the traditional ASP (perhaps service-based 
  applications).

  
 

  
Joe

  

  
  From: Ken Laskey [mailto:]
Sent: 
  Wed 8/23/2006 10:19 PM
To: Michael Stiefel
Cc: 
Subject: 
  Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question

  

  
Michael,

  

  
My question is whether there are providers in the SOA sense for something 
  other than services.  For example, one could say there are data providers 
  but wouldn't they have their data sources accessed using services?  Does 
  that apply to all providing stakeholders?

  

  
Ken

  

  
On Aug 23, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Michael Stiefel wrote:

  
    
Aren't users of the services stakeholders?

    

    
Aren't manufacturers of equipment 
    stakeholders?

    

    
Is the government that collects a tax or regulates 
    a stakeholder?

    

    
Aren't the "victims" we discussed at the F2F 
    stakeholders as well?

    

    

    
Michael

    

    

    

    
At 05:57 PM 8/23/2006, Ken Laskey wrote:

    
      
Can we have stakeholders who are providers or 
      maintainers of something other than services?  Or, do we assume by the nature 
      of SOA that if you provide something other than a service, that something 
      is a capability that must have a service access, so you always end up a 
      service provider?

      

      
Ken

      

      

      
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