+1
And good for Reston!
I think that the judge had it wrong. Even if the trees had no legal
standing, people do. And the loss of trees can result in a loss to
people in the neighborhood. I suspect that that ruling would not
survive an appeal.
BTW: I am not a lawyer, so the above is just an opinion...
I think that you need to expand the scope of stakeholders a little:
-- service hosts
-- service mediators (brokers, etc.)
-- service discovery agencies
Frank
On Aug 24, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Ken Laskey wrote:
> From the ftf, we had
> - direct participants
> -- providers
> -- consumers
> - regulatory authorities
> - non-participants (innocent bystanders/"victims")
>
> My initial question to the list was whether the direct participants
> were *service* providers and *service* consumers or whether there
> were other providers (and by extension, other consumers and
> participants).
>
> From the discussion so far, I would say the ftf list covers the
> territory and the direct participants are indeed always dealing
> with services. However, the non-participants can include anyone
> (and possibly anything) else, and their identification is context
> dependent.
>
> An anecdote that has some relevance:
> Last week a judge ruled against a neighborhood group who was trying
> to block construction of the new Yankee Stadium. The neighborhood
> group said the loss of the nearby park and trees would have a
> devastating effects on the community. The judge ruled that the
> trees had no legal standing. My daughter's immediate response was,
> "They do in Reston!" Now I live in Reston, one of the original
> planned communities, and here you have to make sure your basketball
> backboards are the right color. Notwithstanding those
> philosophical battles, one of the differences in development in
> Reston is they generally try to save the existing trees rather than
> clear cutting and just plowing everything under. The result is
> actually quite nice. In any case, context will often define the
> most relevant (for modeling purposes) non-participatory stakeholders.
>
> Ken
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