Re: [soa-rm-ra] Fw: [soa-rm] Why service composition and composite applications are anti-patterns of SOA

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Re: [soa-rm-ra] Fw: [soa-rm] Why service composition and composite applications are anti-patterns of SOA
But if we are going to use aggregation consistently instead of composition, we should be clear what we mean and why.  I don't necessarily want to pick a fight with anyone but we should be clear about our own meaning.

Ken

On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:
 I don’t think we would condone fighting others over this, just being accurate in our own work. Let others use the composition convention as they see fit – beyond our control to influence anyways.
 
 /d
 
 
 On 9/27/07 3:37 PM, "Ken Laskey" <> wrote:
 
 Let's see what it means to make a clear case for this.  If the path is too tortured, we probably don't want to waste the capital fighting that value.  If it's fairly straightforward, maybe we want to give it a shot.
 
 Ken
 
 On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:
 
 For accuracy sake, I concur.
 
 
 On 9/26/07 2:05 PM, "Jeffrey A. Estefan" <>
 wrote:
 
  
 Duane,
 
 Should we revise our discussion of composition of services in the RA we are
 developing to state "aggregation of services" or "service aggregation?"  I
 certainly see your point and from a UML perspective but I also agree with
 you comments in your blog that essentially the 'train has left the station'
 so-to-speak for quite some time now and industry is getting very familiar
 with the nomenclature of "service composition."  Can we expect to buck the
 system via the RA?  Don't know.  Just a question.  And what is the GoF view
 on composition say via the structural Composite Pattern?
 
 Others?
 
  - Jeff E., JPL
 
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