Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action

From
Jeffrey A. Estefan <>
Date
2008-06-11T19:53:59+00:00
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019601c8cbfc$dd0fb390$
Thread
Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action


Hi Michael,

 

One of the questions we asked Frank this morning 
(and this example drives it home) is: How is Service Action different from 
Action?  Particularly if Action is defined to be the application of intent 
by Participants (or Agents) in order to achieve a RWE.  Based on this 
definition, isn't Service Action an example of Action?  Conversely, what 
about the Consumer Action?  If Service Action is to be called out 
separately, why not Consumer [or Consumer Agent] Action?

 

A key point we've been iterating is that a 
Service does not act until acted upon.  The introduction of the 
concept of Joint Action helps drive this notion home.  There's a fuzzy 
boundary that we're still wrestling with, i.e., what constitutes separate 
Action vs. Joint Action.  It's not all that clear cut, particular in 
SOA-based systems where we are trying match needs with capabilities and those 
entities with needs are not (or at least we assume are not) the same 
entities with capabilities.  It would seem to be silly to assume 
otherwise, at least in terms of the scope of the RM and the RA.

 

In any event, I know you were unable to 
attend the call today, but we decided toward the end of the day that there 
should probably be some loosely defined notion of separate Action in Section 3 
of the RA, but that for modeling SOA-based systems, will be focusing primarily 
on Joint Action.  Frank has the "action" (no pun intended) to write 
something up that helps illustrate this based on a real world example.  He 
said he probably won't be able to get that out for a couple of weeks, but in the 
meantime, we can press on with Joint Action.

 

Bye for now...

 

 - Jeff