Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action

From
Jeffrey A. Estefan <>
Date
2008-06-09T21:27:39+00:00
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010001c8ca77$9dedde70$
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Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action


I think it's time to return to basics and my 
belief is that starts with clear clarification of Real World Effect 
(RWE).

 

See pages 18-19 of the RM.  Also see the 
attached subset of slides from Ken's RM tutorial.

 

Clearly, RWE is related to the notion of Shared 
State and Interaction.  This point (at least Shared State) seems to have 
been dropped in the RA.

 

Also, we need to be clear about RWE.  Does a 
consumer using a proxy agent to send a message to a Service requesting 
invocation of a permissible action failing due to a network outage count as 
a RWE since the Service never got to request message to carry out its 
action?  Ambiguities such as this need to 
get resolved.

 

For SOA-based systems, to me, only joint action 
is interesting.  Who cares about separate action?  Heck, anything that 
some entity does could be characterized as an action.  That would leave us 
with unlimited permutations.

 

Enough rambling for now.

 

 - JAE

 

 

 

SOA-RM TEM (PR2)-RWE.ppt