RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general comment on the SOA RA

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Ellinger, Robert S (IS) <>
Date
2009-04-07T01:50:41+00:00
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RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general comment on the SOA RA
Title: Re: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general comment on the SOA RA

Not sure that I entirely agree...I suspect many enterprises 
could share a concierge repository; but there may be a fly in that 
ointment...

From: Lublinsky, Boris 
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:06 
PM
To: Ellinger, Robert S (IS); Lublinsky, Boris; Duane Nickull; 
Jeffrey A. Estefan; 
Subject: RE: 
[soa-rm-ra] RE: A general comment on the SOA RA

Move 
does not mean physically move, it might mean create a reference from a company’s 
repository. The end result is that unless a service description/reference to 
service description exists in am enterprise repository, its usage will be one 
off, which is not a good situation. If the service functionality deems to be 
useful, a company typically wants to make an agreement with the service provider 
and use it internally as much as possible, thus it wants a link to it from its 
local repository.

The 
caveat here is that service description requirements can be different between 
service provider and consumer, thus it might have to be localized. Finally RA 
talks about invocation context (sorry, I really think this is a bad phrasing, 
cause typically context is an execution context, which service should not have), 
which can be specific for a consumer company and needs to be reflected in local 
repository 

 

From: Ellinger, Robert S 
(IS) [mailto:] 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 
5:05 PM
To: Lublinsky, Boris; Duane Nickull; Jeffrey A. Estefan; 

Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general 
comment on the SOA RA

 

Why move 
it?  Why not use it in place, but continue to evaluate it and recommend or 
not?

 

From: Lublinsky, Boris 
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:26 
AM
To: Ellinger, Robert S (IS); Duane Nickull; Jeffrey A. Estefan; 

Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general 
comment on the SOA RA

Well, 
this is kinda neat idea, but even with this, someone is doing final approval and 
as result a service will be moved to the local repository for company 
usage.

 

From: Ellinger, Robert S 
(IS) [mailto:] 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 
8:15 AM
To: Lublinsky, Boris; Duane Nickull; Jeffrey A. Estefan; 

Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general 
comment on the SOA RA

 

Boris:

 

What 
about concierge services that evaluate, (perhaps store) and recommend 
services to their clients...I can see a business model for 
that.

 

Bob

 

From: Lublinsky, Boris 
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:09 
AM
To: Duane Nickull; Jeffrey A. Estefan; 

Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general 
comment on the SOA RA

Duane, 

Agreed. 
This was not my point. My point was that regardless of local/global 
infrastructure, service repository is always local to an enterprise, based on 
afreements between companies 

 

From: Duane Nickull 
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:30 
PM
To: Lublinsky, Boris; Jeffrey A. Estefan; 

Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] RE: A general 
comment on the SOA RA

 

Boris:
On 4/5/09 
6:04 PM, "Lublinsky, Boris" <> 
wrote:

Another issue that I see in 
the document is the fact that while SOA infrastructure is 
global

I would argue that it 
does not always have to be global. In fact, the scope of deployment or influence 
is not critical to it “being” SOA.

Duane 

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