Please take a look at the following reorganization.
I started with the sections in red as reorganized in the Revised outline
(attached).
Then I commenced a complete edit/restructuring of those sections. I
couldn't help myself and did some wordsmithing, hopefully for
readability. I do not intend for the result to be THE finished product,
but I hope it communicates more clearly with the uninitiated reader.
Additionally, again I couldn't help myself, I reduced the number of
headings substantially--Sorry Ken.
Bob
I hope we can talk about it on Wednesday.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: James Odell [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:39 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] SOA-RA(F) reorganization
Rex,
Yes, I agree. A section for Policies outside Contract -- in addition to
the leaving a Policies and Contracts -- makes good sense to me.
Ciao,
Jim
On 4/11/09 7:41 PM, "Rex Brooks" indited:
> Than ks Jim,
>
> I agree about Policies pertaining to more than just contracts. I think
> our focus on crossing organizational boundaries tends to make us think
> along those lines more than we would if we were more focused within an
> enterprise boundary. Role policies, for instance, are more routine
> within an enterprise, and rules for what happens when events are
> reported are often more prescribed.
>
> I'd just add a section for Policies outside Contract context.
>
> Cheers,
> Rex
>
> At 5:46 PM -0400 4/11/09, James Odell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After yet another reading of the SOA-RA (Foundation?) and having sat
>> through the recent spate of meetings, I have the following say about
>> the reorganization of the SOA-RA:
>>
>> Overall, I think that the chapters and topics are sequenced in a
>> coherent and logical manner. Perhaps, it is because I read it too
>> many times now. But, I don't think so.
>> Also, I understand the need to minimize the amount of work needed on
>> the SOA-RA at this point in its development. We need to get it
>> released for public comment - without compromising quality and
>> understandability, of course.
>> Having said this, the only thing that bothers me enough to suggest a
>> reorganizational change is the area of Policies:
>>
>> 1) Policies, in general, are depicted in document far earlier than
>> they are finally addressed (by 40-50 pages). Since policies - IMO -
>> are an important ingredient in the SOA-RA, I would like to see them
>> addressed earlier. (My personal opinion is that policies are not
>> mentioned anywhere near the amount that they should. For example,
>> they are used in events, composition of services, roles, and
>> organizations. However, since this would involve additions to the
>> current document, I will not push this)
>>
>> 2) I strongly dislike grouping the entire topic with contracts.
>> While policies are used for contracts, Policy is a standalone concept
>> - which neither depends on nor is used solely with Contract.
>> (Even the OMG and W3C treat policies as a separate notion.) Why is
>> this reasonable? Because policies are used in a variety of
>> situations - only one of which is contracts. By placing Policies in
>> lock step with (and almost subordinate to) with Contracts is not
>> appropriate, IMO.
>>
>> 3) My suggestion: separate Policies and Contracts into two distinct
>> subsections (e.g., 4.4 and 4.5).
>>
>> In short, this would provide clarity for the notion of Policy and not
>> require much change to the current document.
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jim
>
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