Not quite ignored. This appears to be Thomas Erl's company and he is doing what he can to position his business. Obviously, he decided his positioning does not include the OASIS work. How much traction he gets may depend on how many people contribute/sign up to his manifesto.
Ken
On Jun 14, 2009, at 3:55 AM, Mike Poulin wrote:
I would like to put your attention on SOA Manifesto at http://www.soa-manifesto.com/ from Thomas Erl.
- Michael
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From: "Ken Laskey"
To: "Heather Kreger"
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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] SOA RA from opengroup
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:24:41 -0400
Heather,
Thanks for the clarification. Do you folks still have the comments we previously submitted or should I try to recover them and resubmit?
Ken
On May 7, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Heather Kreger wrote:
Hi,
My emails to the soa-rm-ra list keep bouncing,
Please remember that the SOA Source Book went to the publishers during the San Diego meeting, so it was set before our engagement. In addition, the SOA Source Book is supposed to be a snapshot of the work at The Open Group at the end of 2008-ish, not normative content in and of itself. It is not a standard. The standards work that this is a snapshot of will continue to evolve and comments will be addressed in the work groups. The SOA Source book will be updated accordingly and will point the standard as they are released.
As a heads up and so its not misinterpreted, the SOA RA WG is making an initial draft based on the IBM submission publically available very shortly. It will not go through standardization. Its simply our starting point that we can use to solicit comments. This draft does not incorporate any major comments. The SOA RA group is currently working on the next major draft for this summer which will include ABBs, usecases , and comments.
If you could resend your comments, we still have plenty of time to address and respond to them.
I think thus far we have always shown the TOG RA to be more concrete than the OASIS RA .. but not a concrete solution in the TOGAF sense (if I understand your comment correctly)..
Sincerely,
Heather Kreger
STSM, SOA Standards, Standards, SWG, IBM
Member of IBM Academy of Technology
Author of "Java and JMX: Building Manageable Systems"
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This is distressing because we submitted detailed comments, never got
an acknowledgement even after asking about it, and the comments were
obviously ignored.
OTOH, if in the harmonization drawings this RA is shown tending
towards a concrete solution rather than an abstract representation of
a solution -- AND THAT IS MADE CLEAR -- then it is what it is.
Ken
On May 7, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Lublinsky, Boris wrote:
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