Re: [soa-rm] interesting article - relevant to services and data modelaspects of our RM

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Re: [soa-rm] interesting article - relevant to services and data modelaspects of our RM
Joe,

Regardless of who sent the article, I am not seeing the relevance.  By being vague on the addressee, I had hoped that someone would explain the relevance of the article to RM, or perhaps enlighten me to alternative definitions of the word "relevance".

:-)

Thanks, 

Matt

On 3-May-05, at 5:15 PM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

Matt, I believe you meant to address that to Duane per the subject of the e-mail (?) Just pointing that out so that there is no confusion.

 

Joe

 

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From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:]

Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 4:12 PM

To: Chiusano Joseph

Cc: Duane Nickull; SOA-RM

Subject: Re: [soa-rm] interesting article - relevant to services and data model aspects of our RM

Define "relevant".

-Matt

Chiusano Joseph wrote:

> I found this passage toward the end (3rd par. from bottom) perplexing

> in terms of where he was leading - it follows the discussion of using

> RSS and REST:

>

> "In fact, this low-tech approach is so appealing that many people are

> now discounting the WS-* stack. That’s understandable and in many

> cases valid. While we argue about which WS-* standards will stick to

> the wall, a set of key capabilities is emerging. Broadly speaking,

> WS-* pushes aspects of data communication -- security, asynchrony,

> reliability, routing, and proxying -- up into the application layer

> where we can reason about these things as businesspeople rather than

> wrestle with them as network plumbers."

>

> The first 3 sentences seem to support the notion of using RSS and REST

> as alternatives to the WS-* stack (I see the basic point, but there

> are aspects, such as security, that I believe he is discounting and

> should not). But then, starting with "Broadly speaking,", he seems to

> be a fan of WS-*.

>

> Does anyone see this differently?

>

> Joe

>

> Joseph Chiusano

>

> Booz Allen Hamilton

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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Duane Nickull [mailto:]

> *Sent:* Tue 5/3/2005 3:16 PM

> *To:* SOA-RM

> *Subject:* [soa-rm] interesting article - relevant to services and

> data model aspects of our RM

>

> http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/03/11/11FEstateofarch5_1.html

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