Re: [soa-rm] "Industry Analysis Report" from Everware-CBDi on "InSearch of a Common SOA Language"

Title: Re: [soa-rm] "Industry Analysis Report" from Everware-CBDi on "In Search of a Common SOA Language"

Yes – good catch.  OASIS must respects the copyright of others and if it is not specifically allowed, we cannot make such a post.

Duane

On 1/29/07 7:10 PM, "Metz, Rebekah" <> wrote:

The report is available after registration at the CBDi site.  As registration at the CBDi site is required to access the material - I hesitate to post the content to kavi.  Perhaps we could get someone from CBDi to post the report?

-----Original Message-----

From: Danny Thornton [mailto:]

Sent: Mon 1/29/2007 9:58 PM

To: Metz, Rebekah; 

Subject: RE: [soa-rm] "Industry Analysis Report" from Everware-CBDi on "In Search of a Common SOA Language"

Is sometone going to post the report to KAVI?

Danny

--- "Metz, Rebekah" <> wrote:

> In re-reading my last email, I may have

> unintentionally focused on the

> existence of multiple players in the Reference Model

> Landscape.  I agree

> that the RM, or any model, provides a point of

> reference for discussion.

> In fact, I think that the CBDI analysis is valuable

> so that we, as a

> community, can understand where/how different

> efforts relate to one

> another.  I've read the report several times over

> the weekend and found

> the summary of key definitions from in each model

> quite useful.  

> 

> However, in reading through the section entitled

> 'Differences among the

> Reference Models,' the 'verdict' for each

> fundamental concept seems to

> waiver between Reference Architecture and Reference

> Model as a point of

> comparison.  I wonder if it might not be beneficial

> to others who are

> trying to understand the essence of Service Oriented

> Architecture to see

> how the the relative strengths and weaknesses of a

> Reference Model vs..

> a Reference Architecture differ? 

> 

> From this perspective, a key strength of the SOA-RM

> is how it encourage

> both the business and technology side to move toward

> a common basis of

> understanding - independently of the mechanisms used

> to implement. 

> ________________________________

>

> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:]

> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:39 PM

> To: Metz, Rebekah; ; Dave

> Mayo

> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] "Industry Analysis Report"

> from Everware-CBDi on

> "n Search of a Common SOA Language"

>

>

>

>       Rebekah et al:

>      

>       I think if anything, the CBDI article may have

> misstated the

> intent.  David Mayo was at the event in VA earlier

> this week and is

> aware of the Reference model.  Lawrence Wilkes is of

> course a member of

> the TC too and has said kind things about the RM.

>      

>       The Reference Model was never intended to the the

> singular point

> of reference that the entire industry had to agree

> with, but it does

> give them a point of reference.  As such, I think

> the article tries to

> balance the model with other work to see where

> alignment is (although I

> have to state I have not read it).

>      

>       Dave - anything to add?

>      

>       Duane

>      

>      

>       On 1/26/07 6:21 AM, "Metz, Rebekah"

> <>

> wrote:

>      

>      

>

>               SOA-RM'ers:

>               I receive the monthly newsletter from CBDi and

> usually

> find much useful and insightful information.  I was

> disappointed to

> receive this month's newsletter with the following

> headline "in Search

> of a Common SOA Language."  The article starts out

> with "we believe that

> a widely accepted reference model for SOA will

> accelerate the take up of

> SOA, since tool vendors and practitioners will have

> a more solid and

> common base to work from."

>              

>               As part of the reference model landscape, the

> following

> sources were analyzed:

>               W3C Web Services Architecture

>               OASIS SOA-Reference Model

>               IBM UML 2.0 Profile for Software Services

>               OpenGroup Open SOA Ontology

>               UK Ministry of Defence Ministry of Defence

> Architectural

> Framework Metamodel

>               Everware-CBDi "A Meta Model for Service

> Architecture and

> Engineering"

>              

>               I'm working through the article in a bit more

> depth

> today....but would welcome a discussion on this list

> on the validity of

> the strengths and weaknesses that were identified.

>              

>              

>               The full article can be found at:

>

http://www.cbdiforum.com/bronze/journal/2007-01/in_search_common_soa_lan

> guage.php

>              

>               Rebekah

>              

>              

>

>      

>      

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