RE: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer Version 1.0

Cheers
for this Nig.

 

<< but note that K isn’t keen on the introductory material.
This strikes me as another reason for expediting our business case. >>

 

+1 to that

 

<<The point about eServices is interesting (defensive?)
and perhaps something that we should consider as part of that exercise as well
– we need to ensure that we don’t turn people off who are proud of
what they have managed to achieve.>>

 

+1 , but does K 'get it'? Has she read it closely enough to
absorb what it *actually* says? But if on a quick skim, K has not picked up the
vital point that it is *not* about how many eServices you might've put up
online, then that means we are not emphasising the rationale strongly enough.

 

The
reference to Territory, suggests Northern Territories (state) to me, which may
be one that has had less exposure to the TG concepts..

 

Cheers

Colin

 

From: Greenaway Nigel
[mailto:] 

Sent: Saturday, 30 April 2011 4:13 a.m.

To: TGF TC List 

Subject: [tgf] FW: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer
Version 1.0

 

Hi All,

               
Please see below for an email discussion following me drawing the attention of
the W3C eGovernment Interest Group to the TGF Primer together with an exchange between
John and I about it.

 

The initiator of the discussion sent the note to me privately
(rather than to the complete interest group) so I have removed anything that
could identify them and referred to them as K throughout.

 

 

Regards

 

Nig

 

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From: Greenaway Nigel
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Sent: 29 April 2011 15:47

To: John Borras

Subject: RE: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer Version
1.0

 

Hi John,

               
K is a Policy Manager, in ICT Services within an Australian Territory.
BTW, the message simply sought to draw their attention to the document and
requested comments (via the OASIS public mechanism).

 

I read the note as being supportive but perhaps weary of the
potential for any framework to become obsolete. I was encouraged that she
thinks the content is practical but note that K isn’t keen on the
introductory material. This strikes me as another reason for expediting our business
case. The point about eServices is interesting (defensive?) and perhaps
something that we should consider as part of that exercise as well – we
need to ensure that we don’t turn people off who are proud of what they
have managed to achieve.

 

BTW, I presented to the UK Government’s Information domain
during the week. They were interested in the framework and wanted more detail
in a few places (there seemed to be particular interest in the identity
management aspects). They requested a short overview document and felt that
would help us get buy-in from senior officials. I think that this is another
pointer to the need for our business case.

 

 

Regards

 

Nig

 

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From: John Borras
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Sent: 29 April 2011 15:23

To: Greenaway Nigel

Subject: RE: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer Version
1.0

 

What do we make of this - supportive, critical, good but
it’s a passing phase?     Did K infer what they would do with it if
anything or are they going to just ignore it?

 

What role has K in
the Group?

 

John

 

From: Greenaway Nigel
[mailto:] 

Sent: 29 April 2011 15:04

To: John Borras

Subject: FW: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer Version
1.0

 

Hi John,

               
PSA for some feedback via the W3c e-Government Interest Group

 

 

Regards

 

Nig

 

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From: KSent:
28 April 2011 23:39

To: Greenaway Nigel

Subject: RE: OASIS Transformational Government Framework Primer Version
1.0

 

 

Hi K,

               
Yes indeed there is much Government experience in the group. The leading
members used to work for the Office of the eEnvoy in the UK (charged with
running the then e-Government programme) and have gone on to act as consultants
in tens of territories across the world, whilst others work directly for
different national governments and other government organisations or within the
government supply community.

 

The tone of your comment seems to imply that you don’t
feel the document is very practical. Is that what you meant?

 

Not quite.   I think it’s a very practical
document, and should be adopted widely – until the next framework comes
into fashion.  But that’s progress for you.

 

What I was less impressed with is the introduction. 
I’ve been around a few years, and I’d be happy to relate to you my
experience in doing more with less.  It’s not a recent phenomenon.

 

And you suggest that take-up of eServices has not been good. 
I’d argue that it has been (in our jurisdictions at least) very good, but
of course it could be improved.

 

My final comment – about the framework in general – is
it seems to propose a transformation of government based on a service-oriented
view of the world.  Well (again in my view) there’s a lot more to government
than delivering services to “the community” and to propose such a
transformation (yes, even to the extent of tearing down the much-maligned
silos) on the basis of improvement of +one element+ of government work smacks
of hubris.

 

Best, on this Day of Days

 

K

 

 

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