Re: [tm-pubsubj] Range of Application

From
Peter Brown <>
Date
2004-01-16T10:06:17+00:00
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003501c3dc1a$81b1cf00$0101a8c0@home
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Re: [tm-pubsubj] Range of Application
Carl:

I don't want to be picky, just to get the picture 
clear.

Is the SemConMan SC an actual TC sub-committee or 
just a "working group" of the ebXML Registry TC? It is simply not on the radar 
anywhere. I ask because this could be a valid case for bringing it up to a full 
TC: they will be those (myself included) who would be interested in SemConMan, 
but not 'just' the ebXML registry TC.

In this circulstance, there would be valuable 
cross-over with the broader TM-PubSubj objectives

 

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Carl 
Mattocks 

To: Patrick Durusau 

Cc: Peter Brown ;  ; Bernard Vatant ; tm-pubsubj 

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 2:15 AM

Subject: Re: [tm-pubsubj] Range of Application

<quote who="Patrick Durusau">
> 
Peter,
>
> Peter Brown wrote:
>> Hi Carl, Hi 
Bernard....
>>
>> <quote who="Carl 
Mattocks">
>>  >Acknowledged - the link is for OASIS 
members.
>>  >
>>  >Below is an extract from 
the charter.
>>  ><charter-extract>
>>  
>The Semantic Content Management SC was established by the OASIS
>> 
ebXML...
>> </quote>
>> Unfortunately, the link is even 
for the TC administrator only, not even
>> OASIS members...
>> 
BTW: the OASIS members area doesn't show *any* reference at all
>> to 
SemConManSC of the ebXML Registry....???

We have requested that web 
access will be made easier via a link from
OASIS list of TC's

>> 
I would be interested in more detail, particularly as there is 
always
>> the danger of "scope creep": although there are plenty of 
things that do
>> need to be done, "our" TC is about Published 
Subjects, not about
>> semantic interoperability through public 
registration of ontologies and
>> ontological constructs...The SCMSC 
sounds closer to the "SeeBIG" TC
>> idea....
>>
> Was 
not trying to suggest "scope creep", just an observation that
> Published 
Subjects could be used by a number of different 
technologies.
>

Agreed - the members of the SCMSC would probably 
encourage to facilitate
semantic interoperability through public registration 
of ontologies and
ontological 
constructs.

>>
>> <quote who="Patrick 
Durusau">
>>  >
>>  > What I am thinking is 
that the definitions should be as generic to
>> the
>>  
> general concept of PSIs as possible so as to allow for 
future
>>  > deliverables to address the needs to topic maps 
and other
>> technologies
>>  > (or the development of 
deliverables by other communities for their
>> own
>>  
> purposes).
>> </quote>.
>> Is this not the tail 
wagging the dog? Surely business drivers will lead
>> to definition of 
general concepts and requirements, and *then* such
>> generic 
definitions can be "narrowed" to specific TM 
implementations...?
>>
>
> No because no matter how urgent 
a business driver may be, it cannot
> supply the intellectual content that 
underlies the general concepts and
> terminology. Such drivers may well 
influence how soon such concepts and
> terminology are narrowed for 
specfic cases but that is a different issue.
>
> We may well be 
talking about the same thing in slightly different ways.
> What I think is 
important is that the concepts and terminology be
> specific enough to be 
useful but not limited to a particular set of
> uses. Able to be driven to 
narrower cases by more specific business
> drivers if you 
like.
>

Acknowledged - I do consider that PSI's have the potential 
to add value
many forms of semantic structures.

-- 

Carl Mattocks

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