Hi all,
I would suggest that we give this a try. Any
other opinions? If not:
When
can we start?
Do
we need a ballot to determine whether we go ahead with this?
Do
we need to put together some official guidelines? Or should we perhaps simply
run with it for now and see how it works?
Do
we need any type of protection for this site, to avoid external access?
Cheers,
Magnus
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11:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [trans-ws]
Collaborative editing of the spec
Magnus,
1.
The wiki supports this automatically. When you edit and update a page,
the page has a link 'Back in time' at the bottom. You can use this to
track changes, and rollback if necessary. At present, this mechanism is
pretty rudimentary, but I believe that the developers are working on something
more sophisticated.
2.
The notifications are handled through RSS. Check out www.bloglines.com
for a web based RSS aggregator, or FeedDemon
(http://www.bradsoft.com/feeddemon/index.asp) for a windows based one, if
you're not familiar with RSS. Effectively, what will happen is if you
subscribe to the feed, your feed aggregator will poll it on a regular basis
(say every 2 hours), and you'll see any changes there.
3
& 4. The idea behind wikis is that everybody can add whatever they
like, and that through the editing process it all gets cleaned up properly. What
I would suggest is that people put their own contributions & annotations
directly onto the appropriate page, and we can remove all of this in the final
publication. The typical approach that you see in wikis is that people
surround their own contribution with horizontal lines (e.g. see the note on
this page: http://212.147.140.51:2500/wiki/show/requestQuote to see what I
mean).
Obviously,
people will have to be sensible about how they edit this, and not just change
anything they want just because it suits them.
Anyway,
good to hear that there is some appetite for this.
Regards,
Steve
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"Magnus Martikainen"
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RE: [trans-ws] Collaborative editing of the
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Hi Stephen,
This is a great initiative! I am all for it, it should help
us a lot to keep the specs up-to-date if everyone that identifies an issue can
go in and change it directly.
But obviously with that freedom comes some responsibility,
and I guess we may need to put together some guidelines for how we should work.
I am not familiar with Wiki or RSS so I have a couple of
questions:
* Is it possible to track the history of the content,
retrieve an “old” version, or see exactly what changes has been done and
perhaps reverting to an earlier version?
* Is it possible to get notifications when content is changed
and to see what changes were made?
* It could be useful to be able to do edit the content as a
“change proposal” without it explicitly being part of the “official” content
until it has been signed off by others. Would this be possible?
* Is it possible to annotate changes with comments explaining
why they were made?
Thanks a lot for taking your time in setting this up!
Magnus
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:51 AM
To:
Subject: [trans-ws] Collaborative editing of the spec
All,
given that a number of people are tasked with editing the spec, I thought that
a collaborative environment such as a wiki might be useful. To that end,
I spent a few hours creating a wiki, and making it publically available.
Check out: http://212.147.140.51:2500
For those of you who use RSS feed aggregators, there is also as RSS feed
available, so you can follow progress on the doc:
http://212.147.140.51:2500/wiki/rss_with_content
The wiki engine (Instiki - www.instiki.org) is supposed to have PDF & LaTeX
export functionalaity, but that appears to be broken at the moment. However,
when I get that sorted, it should mean that we can produce a printable copy of
the spec directly from the wiki.
Take a look, and let me know what you think, and whether you reckon it's worth
pursuing with this approach, or whether the posted/emailed Word docs are
better.
Peter, if you're happy with this approach, feel free to post a link on the
TransWS home page. I'll keep the wiki server up for the duration of the
development of the spec (and perhaps move it to a more permanent home if this
exercise is successful).
Regards,
Steve
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